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December 19, 2008 4:00 AM PST

You don't need satellite TV when times get tough

by Marguerite Reardon

Editor's note: This is part of a series of stories about the recession's effect on the tech industry.

A year before the U.S. economic crisis came to a head, Debra James of Oakland said she saw the writing on the wall and decided to trim the household budget. Topping the list were things like satellite television.

Debra and Mervin James

Debra and Mervin James

(Credit: James Martin/CNET News)

"I could tell the economy was getting sluggish in the summer of 2007," she said. "So I decided we needed to make some cuts, so that if things got worse, it wouldn't be so painful."

Indeed, things did get worse. The U.S. economy has technically been in a recession since December 2007, according to a recent report from the National Bureau of Economic Research, a nonpartisan group that officially tracks recessions.

Workers in the U.S. have steadily been losing their jobs all year as companies slash headcount to cut costs. The worst month so far has been November, when U.S. companies shed a whopping 533,000 jobs, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. This was the worst single month of job losses in the U.S. since 1974, when the economy was coming out of another severe recession, a recent New York Times article reported.

The big difference this time around is that the current recession seems to be picking up steam, with even more companies announcing layoffs in early December.

While Debra James, 45, and her husband Mervin James, 40, have kept their jobs so far, Mervin, a heating and air conditioning technician for new construction in the Bay Area, has had his salary cut by 20 percent in the past year. And his company has stopped paying for vacation time.

James said the pay decrease has taken a toll on the family finances. She and her husband are putting less money into their savings every month. But because they've been able to eliminate a significant chunk of their monthly expenses, they've had more wiggle room than they would have had if they hadn't started cutting back.

"If we were living the lifestyle we had been living before we made some changes, the salary cut would have definitely had a negative impact on us," she said. "But we were ready for it."

Top on the list of services to cut was the satellite TV package. James said she and her husband were spending $115 a month for their Dish satellite service, which gave them about 250 channels of programming. But when she sat down and listed what she and her husband actually watched, she discovered that they only viewed about 25 of those channels.

"I just couldn't justify watching only 10 percent of the channels I was paying for," she said. "I would have felt a lot better about keeping the satellite service if I could have thrown out the extra channels and only paid for the channels we watched. It's just like buying a whole loaf of bread and only eating two slices--such a waste."

This idea of a la carte pricing for TV channels or allowing people to pick and choose which channels they want to get has had strong support for several years from Federal Communications Commission Chairman Kevin Martin, as well as from many parent and consumer advocacy groups. But the cable TV industry has long argued that pricing individual channels would result in higher prices and fewer choices for all consumers.

After a few Google searches, James said she found a wealth of legitimate sources for TV programming online. Sites such as Hulu, Fancast, Joost, YouTube, and most major TV networks' Web sites offer TV shows and other video content for free. Using an existing rooftop antenna, James plugged her TV into the hook-up to get more than 50 high-definition TV channels over-the-air. The cost for these HD channels: zero.

And instead of spending an extra $20 a month for HBO or any other premium movie channels, James subscribed to a $17-a-month Netflix service, which allows her to rent three movies at a time and download some movies right to her computer.

In order to view the online programming on her TV, James spent about $600 on a new computer, an HP Pavilion Slimline. The Windows Vista computer came with an integrated TV tuner, a High Definition Multimedia Interface cable for carrying high-definition video, and an embedded Blu-Ray/DVD player. The PC, which is only about the size of an old VCR, hooks directly to her TV and can be programmed to act as a DVR recording over-the-air programming that is received from the rooftop antenna. And because most of the Web content is on-demand anyway, James said she can watch whatever she wants, whenever she wants it.

She invested another $50 for a wireless mouse and keyboard, which she uses to search for programming on her hard drive and on the Net. To make finding the shows she likes easier, James said she simply bookmarks her favorite Web sites like the Discovery Channel, which offers full-length documentaries online.

Because she and her husband are watching more video online, James upgraded their DSL service from the $25 deal, which gave them 1.5 Mbps downloads and 384 Kbps uploads, to the $30-per-month service, which offers up to 3 Mbps downloads and 512 Kbps uploads. All told, she is saving about $93 a month after the $17-a-month Netflix subscription and the $5-a-month extra for higher-speed broadband. The cost of the new computer was paid off in about six months.

The James' setup

The James' setup

(Credit: James Martin/CNET News)

Instead of feeling deprived, James said getting rid of the satellite TV service has been a huge improvement.

"We definitely watch more TV now than we did with Dish," she said. "And because most of the shows online through services like Hulu.com don't have commercials, I can watch them much quicker too."

And because some TV channels actually offer additional video content online than they do on regular TV, James said she and her husband are able to get more variety and choice than they were getting with their Dish package. For example, AT&T, her broadband provider, offers a special broadband channel called ESPN360.com.The site offers a wide variety of sports programming from college football to international soccer matches to Nascar, which aren't always shown on the cable or satellite ESPN channels. The events are often aired live and replayed at a later time. And it's all free.

James said she has even been able to find plenty of kids programming on some Web sites, such as Nickelodeon.com and Disney.com, for when her young niece visits.

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Setting up the new entertainment system wasn't difficult either, she explained.

"I would say I am a proficient computer and Internet user," she said. "I can follow directions when it comes to plugging cables into something. But I don't know anything about programming or uploading or streaming movies or music."

But James did say that searching for TV shows using a mouse instead of a remote control means she and her husband have to make a few more clicks to find what they're looking for. And she admitted older TV viewers might not like the new interface. But she added it didn't take long for her and her husband to adjust to the change. Besides, she said the amount of money they save every month is worth it.

"I enjoy my extra $93 a month," she said. "In fact, we just came back from a vacation where we spent a good deal of money, but it was nice to know we were spending money that we had saved from cutting back."

Marguerite Reardon has been a CNET News reporter since 2004, covering cell phone services, broadband, citywide Wi-Fi, the Net neutrality debate, as well as the ongoing consolidation of the phone companies. E-mail Maggie.
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by QuercusMax December 19, 2008 4:42 AM PST
I dumped the dish a year ago and I'm happy I did!

Like the people in this story, I was forced to buy a large package of channels when I only wanted and only watched a few specific ones. In particular, the sports channels such as ESPN are extremely costly (someone has to pay for all those mega-million dollar salaries), so it's no wonder that the industry wants to force all subscribers to contribute. Every year dish sent me a letter saying that they were "forced" to raise prices because the cost of the channels was going up (translation: sports stars needed even more millions), so I unsubscribed and told them to call me back if and when they were willing to offer only the channels I wanted a-la-carte. Now I get most of the channels I need off the air - for free - AND in HD, also for no extra charge. With an inexpensive supplemental Netflix subscription, I'm all set.

(Back in the old days of satellite TV - when dishes were 10' big - you actually could buy channels individually, but the virtual monopolies who control this figured out they could milk much more money from their customers buy forcing people to buy bundles.)

If more people complained about this situation and voted with their money, things might change. Otherwise the greed of the entertainment industry will continue unchecked. I voted.
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by Grumpypaul December 19, 2008 5:44 AM PST
The argument by both the satellite and the cable companies about the individual costs probably going up with an ala carte menu needs to be reviewed by the FCC. For years, the automakers argued that they couldn't meet a given set of emissions or safety standards. Amazingly, they managed. Maybe with an ala carte pricing schedule we can get rid of the proliferation of cable channels that seem to exist purely because they can and not because they offer any added value to viewing in general. Can you see "The Wingnut Channel" coming soon? I have DirecTV and they make claims about some huge amount of channels available. My wife and I view no more than 10-12 with any regularity, and two of them, the Soap Network and the shopping network, would not be missed if they weren't there. We avoid almost any channel with commercials regardless of the movie or program they may offer.
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by coaani December 20, 2008 1:20 AM PST
I really hope you are not using the automakers as an example, considering the whole bailout and almost being bankrupt. I understand your argument, it was just not a wise example IMO.
by Biggnaa20 December 23, 2008 11:13 AM PST
Coaani:

I agree that the timing of the Grumpypaul's comment might be a bit unfortunate, but the American Auto industry is not in peril because of forced adherence to emmisions and safety standards, but instead due to out of date business practices including ignoring alternate fuels and more economical vehicle types.

When consumers started to vote with their wallets for more fuel efficient, eco(nomically) friendly cars, Detroit's response was to continue building the same things they were used to. By the time they started to listen to the consumer demand, it was too late: Hence the "need" for a bailout.
by aj37viggen December 19, 2008 6:02 AM PST
The economic illogic behind this article is why we've had a financial meltdown in the first place.

If you buy a $600 computer, a $17-a-month movie service, and a $30-a-month broadband service so you can watch more TV, you are not GETTING an "extra $93 a month." What you are doing is SPENDING $47 per month, plus the cost of the computer, to watch TV.

If the people in the article had decided to limit themselves to their 50 (!) free over-the-air channels and start using their library cards, I might be a little more impressed.
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by UnnDunn December 19, 2008 6:17 AM PST
I guess you missed the part where they canceled their satellite TV service, which was costing them $115/mo.
by calmor15014 December 19, 2008 6:35 AM PST
Those 50 free OTA channels are really whittled down to about 5 or 6 channels worth watching in most areas. Even in the NYC area, most are weather/news channels or public access, and then there are copies of the major networks in SD and HD. Actual watchable TV from those 50 is about the same is it was in 1950.

Still, saving $93/mo is a significant savings, and the PC will last far longer than the 7-month repayment period
by Kev_Orng December 19, 2008 9:06 AM PST
Kind of like people who go to vegas and crow about how they won $200, but after a bit of questioning, reveal they lost more than that, but at some point they were up $200
by joevai52 December 19, 2008 11:02 AM PST
UnnDunn:

I think the point is that if you are spending money, you are not saving money; you're just spending less. This is how retailers have sucked people into their stores for decades by telling everyone how much money they'll save at the upcoming sale. What they invariably fail to mention is that you can not save money while your spending it.

That being said, if there is programming you want to watch on your TV, then it is smart to figure out the least expensive way to do it. My wife and I did pretty much the same thing, and we are now spending $35 less per month on cable. I also reduced our Netflix plan to the one at a time unlimited plan because we use it more for streaming than for the DVD by mail service.

At this point, with all that is available on the internet, I'm not sure why anyone would continue to pay a large cable or satellite TV bill; maybe for live sporting events or if you do not have access to broadband internet.
by rjpadin December 19, 2008 2:56 PM PST
Your math is a bit fuzzy. They were spending $25 for internet and $115 for a total of $140. Now they are spending $30 for internet and $17 for Netflix for a total of $47. 140 - 47 = 93. After a little more than 6 months the PC is paid off by the savings. They already had the internet access, they just upgraded it a bit. Additionally the PC can be used for other things.
by BigGuns149 December 20, 2008 12:21 AM PST
While I am not a fan of conspicuous consumption the reality is that an internet connection while not mandatory is FAR from a luxury in modern America. Those who know what they are doing can easily save far more than the $30/mo from finding deals that they likely wouldn't have found otherwise on such mundane things such as which gas station along their drive to work has the cheapest gas to finding deals on things you need to buy to finding out about stuff that people are giving away through Craigslist.

Furthermore, a lot of people are finding various part time gigs to earn a couple bucks off Craigslist. While not many people are finding new full time jobs right now with the economy when the economy does start rebounding I can guarantee you that the vast majority of hiring managers are going to putting their money into various online job listings. Classified ads in traditional print media have been in long decline and that isn't changing anytime soon. Sure there is no guarantee that the Internet will save/earn you any money, but there are a lot of people who earn/save more money thanks to the internet than they spend on the connection. Most people aren't going to get rich off the internet like the legends of dot com era told us, but in the long run getting rid of your internet connection would probably cost you more than you would save by getting rid of it.

It is little surprise that while most Americans are willing to shop less, drive less, and go out to eat less that getting rid of broadband internet was the least common place that Americans listed as a place that they were looking to cut their spending. While I don't think of most Americans as smart, in this respect they realize that in most cases that Internet access provides a lot of benefits relative to the cost.
by JimW47 December 22, 2008 2:41 PM PST
No illogic at all. Their change results in a NET SAVINGS of $93/month over their previous entertainment package, and getting a greater value for their money. Broadband is indispensable for us (home business, telecommuting) and just another utility; the main fluctuation is in how much you need (fios, dsl, cable). The computer has uses beyond television, doubles as an ATSC tuner, DVR (with no monthly fee) and DVD player, and an existing PC can be retrofitted to the purpose quite cheaply to save even more. We recently dumped our satellite access, and got a netflix account (the basic package) that also allows for video on demand through windows media center.

Can you get away with spending even less than this couple? Certainly. And if further belt-tightening is necessary later on, they still have room to cut. But they've trimmed their budget while getting more actual entertainment; that's not a bad thing.
by Renegade Knight December 23, 2008 11:57 AM PST
People have the computer anyway. That's why it works. If they had to make more budget cuts, odds are they might rediscover their library and over the air TV.
by awilliams16 December 19, 2008 6:05 AM PST
Great story Maurguerite! More stories like this are what people need to see! This is how easy it is to use technology to save money in these difficult times!
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by paul613 December 19, 2008 6:07 AM PST
Even though my wife and together make comfortably into six figures, we have never paid for television for our family of five. We made do with a roof antenna when television was broadcast in analog broadcasts. Now we've installed digital-TV converter boxes and are enjoying free more channels than ever.
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by gerry-g December 19, 2008 6:15 AM PST
With ISP's capping usage I wonder how viable this is? Heck, some cap at 5GB/mo.
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by sanenazok December 19, 2008 7:56 AM PST
Yep exactly...cable companies and AT&T will start implementing caps just as the downturn gets worse and worse.
by SnowCrash8 December 19, 2008 8:50 AM PST
Bingo, the Cable, Satelite, Fiber (ex. FiOS) providers are in a state of panic over the move to obtaining ala carte content over their pipes, effectively savaging their traditional pricey content offerings. So what are they doing, calling end-users bandwidth hogs, and putting caps on bytes, whereby bytes beyond this must be paid for at a hefty rate. Though at this time they purport that their caps are high, enabling huge numbers of image or music file downloads, when one looks at HD video they are not enough.

So as more articles like this hit the wire, many more end users will seek to replicate what has been described and that will simply speed up the cable co's and others to change policies and lobby for restrictions to keep their gravy train flowing.

So please Ms. Reardon, you and your media cohorts need to also stay on top of this side of the equation as a means for the consumer to enjoy the content they want, at a fair price.
by shanedr December 19, 2008 3:00 PM PST
The solution is to take your business where there aren't caps. Those companies are counting on you being too lazy to change services.
by HeXeD January 15, 2009 4:21 PM PST
This is a definite issue.. but I have to add that the person that included "fiber" companies, specifically Fios is wrong. They have no plans to limit bandwidth by capping or charging for more usage. So anyone with Fios is in the clear.
by cyberspittle December 19, 2008 6:24 AM PST
50 HD channels over the air? I doubt that. I get half of that in San Jose (just south and west of Oakland). The majority of the digital broadcasts are 480i. The exceptions are KQED 9-1 (1080i), 2-1 FOX (1080i), CBS 5-1 (1080i), ABC 7-1 (1080i), and Independent 36-1 (720p, but broadcast SD shows).

I don't have cable or satellite, only over the air (OTA), online web shows. We do have a rental card, but prefer to buy media (200+ DVDs to choose from ... half of which are for kids).
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by keepntabs December 19, 2008 7:58 PM PST
Your ability to get channels is not only based upon living in the geographical area of the transmission. You may have signal interference that prevents you from getting channels; such as hills, buildings, trees, antenna pointing in a direction not in line with the signal, weak antenna, weak tuner (tuners use various versions of software), signal noise, etc. I just checked my channel list on my set, and there are 48 digital channels with just the old-fashioned antenna on the roof. Although all of the channels may not be the highest resolution, you still need a digital tuner to view them. After Feb. 19, 2009, they'll be the only types of channels that can be viewed with just an antenna. BTW, my mother lives three blocks away, and uses a set of 20 year old Radio Shack rabbit ears, and that thing rocks! She gets every channel in the area.
by December 19, 2008 7:15 AM PST
Ms. Debra James should be nominated as Treasury Secretary. She knew a recession was coming 6 months before it actually started and a year and a half before economists confirmed it.
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by BigGuns149 December 20, 2008 12:23 AM PST
A lot of people saw a recession coming, but I don't think that makes them a great candidate for Treasury secretary.
by keepntabs December 20, 2008 4:06 PM PST
I am in no way clairvoyant; but I do live in the Bay Area, and struggled through the Dotcom bust at the turn of the century. Since then, I try to be very sensative to economic indicators, and the sub-prime mortgage meltdown was being reported and discussed everyday in the news, and gasoline prices were $3.25 p/g. I will admit that I was very naive about just how shady some of the home purchase transactions were. I thought that banks were only giving mortgages to people who could afford to buy a house, even if they had bad credit previously. I bought my house in 1995 when you had to document everything, have a job, good credit, and a down payment. I thought things would get bad like back in the 80's, but I think we may go below that benchmark, because now the it is such a global economy the impact is far more reaching across several borders.
by crazynexus December 19, 2008 7:32 AM PST
This is all well and good, unless you happen to watch TV shows that aren't online, or only have partial online viewing. history channel and history I are this way, as are a number of Discovery Network programming. The other problem is internet speeds. I have a 3 meg down service, but it's via a pre-wimax wireless attachement. It's fixed to the house, but sometimes it doesn't transmit very fast, due to load factors, tree leaves in the way.. etc.
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by crazynexus December 19, 2008 8:08 AM PST
I guess I should add on, what the HECK where they gettting for $115 a month?!?! I just realized that they were paying $115 a month for Dish Network. If you have HD content (which is like 40 channels), the DVR, and the Top 250, and local programming, that's only $70 a month (which is what I pay). They had another $45 a month tacked onto it! What packages did they have?! All the movies? There's your problem!

Ok, they save 93 a month.. Let's check on some math.. First, they have DSL.. that means they have a phone line, they probably also have cellphones.. why not whack out the phone line which is costing them an arm and a leg? That's how I save money, I don't have a landline. The basic plan from Verizon, after all the taxes and fees, is $40 a month in Michigan. so, by not having a phone line, and not buying all the premium movie channels, I save nearly the same as they do, and can still watch the majority of the TV shows I want, due to them not being online, or not being able to get HD feeds due to my slower internet speed.
by Maggie Reardon December 19, 2008 8:30 AM PST
This is a response to Crazynexus's comment about the James' getting rid of their phone. Actually, I didn't mention this in the story, but Debra told me that she got rid of the second phone line in her house and downgraded the one phone line they had to the most basic phone plan. IT doesn't have any long distance, since she uses her cell phone for that. But in her area, AT&T only offers DSL with a phone line. So she couldn't get rid of it entirely. But she has saved some money there. She actually had quite a long list of other things she cut back on as well that were not necessarily tech related. For example, she raised the premium on her home owners insurance etc. She's a very savvy bargain hunter! I think I've learned some tips from her too!
by Robert G K December 19, 2008 1:35 PM PST
I have AT&T Uverse and we only have a very basic phone line to which isn't expensive, its all the addons that cost.

Other people were talking about companies letting people pick the channels they want to watch and that makes sense. They don't have to let you pick every channel, they can have the basic line-up but then have packs like the shopping network pack which would cost $5 mo extra, and sports which would cost $20 mo extra, spanish channels and religious channels cost so much extra...etc. I hide a ton of channels so I don't have to see them and i wish I didn't have to pay for them. I think if the cable, sat and FiOS companies did this it would save people money.
by keepntabs December 20, 2008 5:13 PM PST
Although Maggie didn't say so in the article, I told her we were subscribing to the "whole magulla". We had America's Everything Pack with Platinum HD ($114.98). I know it was extravagant, but initially when we got it we really did view a lot of the channels and movies. But as time went on, the thrill of all those channels waned. We were watching far fewer channels, and the movies on HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc., didn't refresh as often as we liked. At first we removed the movie channels, and went to 200 channels (. That wasn't good enough, because we were still paying for a lot of channels that we never watched. I looked at the other packages offered by Dish, DirectTV and Comcast to see if we could get the kind of programming we would use for a lesser price, but there overall prices were pretty much the same. I would have been more than willing to pay for the channels I watched, even if the per channel price was higher than what I paid for them in the big package. At least I would be choosing and using what I paid for. My problem wasn't that I couldn't afford the package; I felt it was just a waste, and I should look to save more money considering how I was viewing the economy.

I used to be a consultant, and worked from home frequently. So, I had a second telephone line with call waiting, voicemail, etc. At my current job I don't work from home very often. We have a lot of friends and family that live out of the country, and on the house phone we paid a fee for "discount" international dialing rates (whether we dialed internationally or not for the month), caller ID, call waiting, 3-way, etc. After reviewing our phone usage, we made these changes: the home office phone had to go, reduce the house to metered rate service for $5.70 per month, and remove all long distance. We use Jajah, Jaxtr (VOIP services that can be dialed directly from a handset) or Skype for international calls (and only get charged for what we use at better rates than the telcom offered). For domestic local and long distance, we use our cell phones, which is on a family plan, and never go over the minutes.
by crazynexus January 5, 2009 11:06 AM PST
I'd just like to thank both the writer and the actual person in the article for responding to my comment!
by gthurman December 19, 2008 7:34 AM PST
A free Yahoo account has a TV guide Widget that allows you to choose the video ('cable') supplier, then select only the channels you want to view in a guide. It's very efficent, very user friendly.
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by gkflyboy December 19, 2008 7:36 AM PST
This is a great story. We need to be less wasteful in these times. I know some people who pay over $200/month after taxes for cable/phone/broadband. I used to watch a lot of programming - but a lot of the great shows I love, such as Stargate, have been cancelled for "reality series", plus with downloads available from iTunes or Amazon for $2/episode, or for free streaming at some websites, or even on sale for purchase on DVD soon after the program airs, cable/dish is no longer a "budget" option...
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by tmartinpinion December 19, 2008 7:43 AM PST
I have done the same thing. And I am loving it. I am still working on my player rig but I am doing pretty well even with a basic 1.5 connection. The only thing I can't watch at this speed in the HD stuff which requires a crazy amount of bandwidth. I think the internet is well on its way to being a major player in broadcasting TV and movie content. I have been doing this for a while now and I am seeing fairly rapid change from sites that had crappy and outdated stuff that did not work half the time to sites like Hulu that in my opinion are doing things really right. Some of the networks still have not really figured out that posting crappy video content does not force people to subscribe to other services it only cause them to look elsewhere for content. Once they figure this out (and it looks like more of them are) content is going to get better still. So I give this idea 2 big thumbs up.
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by December 19, 2008 7:47 AM PST
Can anyone comment on the quality of the picture. How does the quality of the picture compare between watching a show on ABC.com in HD on a TV set to watching a show on the ABC HD cable or sattelite channel?
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by joevai52 December 19, 2008 11:31 AM PST
The shows I have watched on the internet are not as high quality as you would see on ABC HD which I believe is broadcast in many areas in 720p. However, it is higher definiton than the broadcasts you get from most basic cable plans, and it is definitely higher quality than what a whole lot of people watch on their Tivo boxes (or other DVR) unless they are recording on a newer, expensive Tvo HD at the highest quality (that would eat up the capacity pretty quickly).

Even though, they are not quite as sharp as HD broadcast programs, I don't miss the lower quality when I watch programs through the internet on my 40" HD TV. If you have a much bigger screen, you might notice the quality difference more. I think it's definitely worth the trouble to try it if you currently have a capable computer and a compatible TV.
by cyberspittle December 19, 2008 1:33 PM PST
If you are sitting directly in front of the monitor ... it is not so good. Problem areas are contrast ratio. If you display it on a big screen and sit on a sofa as you would with regular televsion, the effect is similiar. A lot depends on your computer. I have one computer Core 2 Duo 220 (Celeron) with NVidia 6200 that has chopiness on a 720p screen. Another PC has an ATI2600 Pro and Pentium D 3.2 GHz and it display smoothly. (Big fan of LOST). :)
by surferstevo December 19, 2008 8:25 AM PST
The future of TV is arriving, as soon as they bundle browsers (Opera,Firefox etc.) in your TV, you will no longer need to watch cable tv anymore or pay for it.

For now though I use ATT Uverse 200 channels, HD, DVR for $84. Cox is a ripoff.
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by uglo December 19, 2008 8:32 AM PST
I would hope I could cut somewhere else besides TV. I definitely want to keep my internet service but I could do without the cable tv service. She is right about Hulu but there are commercials and I like Hulu. YouTube is not much though - just junk. I definitely would cut food purchases (bargain shop), cut travelling and cut out regular shopping altogether. It seems that all my bills (water, sewer, homeowners, property taxes, etc.) have increased a bit for 2009, so a person will have to cut spending just to pay the higher bills. I wish Government would learn that they should CUT spending and agencies and not interest rates - which really affects a person's savings account (I guess most people don't save though).
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by ketanc December 19, 2008 8:58 AM PST
Over the pond here in the UK, for once, we seem to have a good deal. Thanks to the BBC our Freeview has many channels worth watching as well as BBC iPlayer for downloading for free ANY BBC content recently broadcast. I myself have a Vista Media Centre (center) PC with Dual Freeview card and Large Hard drives just for TV/Radio recordings. Despite others complaints Media Centre 2005 and Vista Media Centre have served me well. I've not watched any ads since October 2005. FYI 8MB/s broadband is very much the norm over here. What with the introduction of various channels online offerings/players this figure will no doubt rise in comming years. Virgin is already offering 50MB/s. Satelite TV finally has a worthy contender and more and more people will follow.
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by kieranmullen December 19, 2008 10:22 PM PST
Free? What part is free? UK Is a bit backwards making everyone get licences to watch TV with ads on it and fining people who don't pay. Forget that! "The annual cost of a colour TV licence (set by the Government) is currently £139.50."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/
by BigGuns149 December 20, 2008 12:28 AM PST
The license fees in the UK are to pay for BBC. In the US, our public broadcasting(PBS) gets money from the general fund, but it is a tiny fraction of the cost per person that BBC receives. Out taxes also pay for the FCC, which regulates broadcast TV so it isn't free per se, but we can own as many TVs as we want without paying any additional taxes.
by logos December 21, 2008 2:30 PM PST
@ kieranmullen,

You're totally missing the point. Granted, the BBC licence fee is completely archaic and needs to go, but even if you factor in the 139 pounds ( $210 a year by current exchange rate) which is around $18.00 a month, I can guarantee you that with the amount of programming Freeview offers and with the ability to combine it with a DVR recorder; a good amount of people would dump their cable services like a hot potato because when you look at what Freeview has to offer and the fact that it's all free, it's a great deal. There is no way in hell that the cable companies would allow something like Freeview in the U.S. They're too damn monopolistic and greedy, so the licence fee might be backwards in the U.K, but Freeview is way ahead of the curve and would take off like a Rocket if it was implemented into the U.S system giving people turned off by huge cable bills decent programming.

http://www.freeview.co.uk/
by qmuser December 19, 2008 9:01 AM PST
We cut back by going to a $10/month Netflix account and buying a Roku box for $99 to connect it to my TV. We've been happy with it, and already recouped the cost of the Roku compared to what I was paying for other services.
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by December 19, 2008 9:59 AM PST
Times are very tough. HD television, full media center, new pc, high end stereo equipment with surround sound, fully stocked DVD storage cabinet, Xbox, new sofa, decorative throw rugs, decorative wood floors, curtains, etc....Does anyone really believe that this was about cutting back? You can justify anything if you want to buy something else....like maybe a new computer.
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by keepntabs December 19, 2008 3:08 PM PST
Let me explain that the items (except the HTPC) that you see in my media cabinet were obtained BEFORE we started to cut back. About 90% of the furniture in my house was purchased on Craigslist; I just know how to shop well for good deals, and take care of my stuff so it doesn't look used junk after a short while. I bought the material and sewed the curtains myself. My husband and I renovated our house with our own two hands, and did not hire a contractor to refinish our floors, paint the walls, or decorate our house. I am proud of how my home looks--particularly since I spent less than half of what many others would have paid buying stuff new or paying someone else to do it for them. As for the new computer, I didn't buy it until after I had saved the money from the cutbacks. Yes, we had the highest level of Dish service: all of the channels, movies, HD, and DVR service, but we could easily afford it. I guess you were looking for an article where a person is living in a leaning wooden shack watching a 13" B&W television with a bent hanger as the antenna, and turning the channels with a pair of pliers. I wanted to share my story about how you can obtain the same (or better) level of in-home entertainment without spending a lot of money.
by keepntabs December 19, 2008 3:28 PM PST
The majority of items in my media cabinet (except for the HTPC) were obtained BEFORE the summer of 2007. About 90% of the furniture in my house was purchased on Craiglist, and I bought the material and sewed the curtains. Over a 3 year period, my husband and I renovated our entire house by ourselves; no contractors. We stripped the floors, restained and polished the, painted our walls, and decorated. Maybe you would have paid significantly more than me for the same items. I just know how to shop for good bargains, and take care of my stuff so that it doesn't look like junk in a short time. We bought the new computer after we saved up the money from not paying for the extra telephone and television services that we cancelled, not the other way around. Yes, we used to have the largest Dish package available: 250 channels, HD, movies, DVR, and could easily afford it (still can if I want to continue to spend my money on things that I don't fully use instead of having a healthy savings account). I wanted to share my story so that people could see how they can enjoy the same, if not better, level of in-home entertainment for very little money. This article isn't about how a family was living high on the hog, and came crashing down. I can only guess that you were expecting to see a leaning wooden shack with people watching a 13" B&W television with a bent hanger as the antenna, and turning the channels with a pair of pliers. We made adjustments to our household spending last year just so times wouldn't be so tough right now.
by joevai52 December 19, 2008 11:58 PM PST
There are just way too many people who post on the internet who want all or nothing. Yes, it is true that you can save a lot more money by cutting out all unnecessary expenses (TV isn't a need so just get rid of it; cars aren't needed because you can walk or ride the bus; good food isn't needed because you can live on cereal and ramen; anything more than two pairs of pants is frivolous; any more than three shirts and you are just showing off; a house isn't needed because you can live in a tent in the woods; blah, blah, blah). Everyone already knows that BS, but it just isn't realistic to think that very many people will completely deprive themselves of every luxury.

Please remember that there are people at many different economic levels in the world: some people are rich and can get whatever they want with little or no worry; some are poor and can afford no luxuries at all; then there is the vast majority of people who are somewhere in between those two extremes who need to pick and choose what they really want and be smart about how they get it.

This article isn't about completely going without anything nice. It's clearly about finding smarter, less expensive ways to have the things you want. Like I said in an earlier reply, my wife and I have done many of the same things, Plus, we do unneeded shopping less frequently; we dine out less; and we travel less. Now, even though our income is lower right now than it was a year ago, we are actually saving more money every month than we were then, but our level of in-home entertainment is at least as high as it was then. Why, because we found smarter, less expensive alternatives to get the things we really want.

For people who have tight budgets but don't want to sacrifice all of their TV/movie programming, this article could be helpful.

keepntabs, thanks for sharing.
by BtmnHatesRbn December 19, 2008 10:07 AM PST
Go thing they don't live where I do, where there isn't any free over-the-air TV nor radio, and the WiMAX's max. speed is 128 kbps.
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by facety December 20, 2008 5:02 PM PST
Just curious: where do you live?
by shurygin December 19, 2008 10:19 AM PST
Looking at the picture, they are about to finish their receiver. I have the same model and it is running very hot. Putting it inside a cabinet is a sure way to disaster
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