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July 18, 2008 10:58 AM PDT

Mom continues to chase Prince over 'fair use'

This is the video in question.

(Credit: Stephanie Lenz)

SAN JOSE, Calif.--Stephanie Lenz is an angry Pennsylvania mother who refuses to back down from the music industry.

Lenz's attorneys were in federal district court on Friday morning, trying to thwart a motion to dismiss her lawsuit against Universal Music Group. A year ago, the music label ordered YouTube to pull down a 30-second video she shot of her infant son dancing to Prince's song "Let's Go Crazy."

Lenz, who resides in a rural Pennsylvania area, claims that her video is protected under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and the Fair Use provision in copyright law. She fought the order, and eventually, Universal Music abandoned any claim that she violated Prince's copyright. YouTube has since reposted her clip.

Now Lenz is out to teach the music industry a lesson.

What Lenz and her attorneys at the Electronic Frontier Foundation want are for media companies to stop sending take-down notices in a "willy nilly" fashion and to make sure that they have a legitimate claim of copyright violation before acting. They failed do this with Lenz's video, according to Corynne McSherry, an EFF attorney.

"This video is so clearly noninfringing," McSherry said. "What we've seen is that Universal Music had the view that they could take down Prince content as a matter of principle. But what they were obligated to do was form a good-faith belief that the video was infringing...They may not have formed a good-faith belief at all."

The good news for her is that U.S. District Judge Jeremy Fogel said he would take the matter under consideration after hearing arguments from both sides.

In April, Fogel tossed out the lawsuit Lenz filed against Universal in October. Fogel said her argument that Universal was misusing its copyright was weak.

The judge did allow Lenz's EFF attorneys, however, to try their arguments a second time.

EFF promptly filed a second complaint, arguing that Universal Music should compensate Lenz for falsely accusing her of violating the law and getting her video removed from Google's video-sharing service. The music label has asked the judge to dismiss the case.

A lawyer for Universal Music argued that the label isn't liable for ordering Lenz's video to be removed because it doesn't have to think about Fair Use prior to sending take-down notices. There is no legal obligation to think about it in advance.

EFF, which advocates for the rights of Internet users, disagrees. The group has always said there is real harm caused when a media company issues take-down notices. For example, Lenz had to spend time learning why her video was taken down and convincing YouTube that she had not violated copyright law.

Even though Universal Music now says it no longer considers Lenz's baby video to be infringing on its copyright, Lenz says just receiving the take-down letter caused her harm.

Fogel gave no timetable on when he might make a decision. Should he decline to dismiss the case, Lenz's lawsuit would be allowed to move forward.

Greg Sandoval covers media and digital entertainment for CNET News. He is a former reporter for The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. E-mail Greg.
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by Pete Bardo July 18, 2008 11:35 AM PDT
Go for it Stephanie. You're going to need all the help you can get with this effort.
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by Jack K1 July 18, 2008 11:45 AM PDT
Ha! The video has been pulled down once again.

The funny thing is - when I could listen to music freely, I could discover what I liked and didn't like - and could then go BUY the artist's work(s) in a more convenient format.

Now that I can't really do that, I've stopped buying music because I'm sick of plunking down ten or twenty dollars only to find myself disappointed.
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by ToddWBeaver July 18, 2008 12:02 PM PDT
As described in this article, the suit is without merit. And what type of compensation should she be awarded? Absolutely nothing. She used copyrighted material without permission.

Perhaps it's stupid of the record company to pursue this. I'd argue the video is free advertising for the music and might sell more CDs or downloads. I can't image them losing money because somebody can watch a video featuring that song. But it's their right to be stupid.
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by MSSlayer July 18, 2008 12:15 PM PDT
The big media companies need to get sued and sued often. This is not like it is a rare occurance for them to overstep their bounds.

The big record companies are so dumb, they probably won't learn their lesson even when they are shuttering their buildings.
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by aka_tripleB July 18, 2008 12:23 PM PDT
I don't see how anyone would think that a take down notice would work on that clip seems how it's near impossible to identify the song with the audio quality.
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by Travis Ernst July 18, 2008 12:25 PM PDT
I'll comment on this again. Not being a fan of The Purple One, I can't even make out what is playing. All I can tell is it's some guitar riff. Now if you can clearly identify the trx more power to you. You must be a fan of Paisly Park man himself. The kid is excited and music is playing. It's not an attempt to steal an entire track of his work.
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by whatgoes July 18, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
Why can't the websites make the music industry provide a court order to remove illegal posts? Innocent until proven guilty!!!
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by t26l July 18, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
@ToddWBeaver:

She doesn't need permission to use the music in the clip. That's the point. I'm not sure she deserves compensation, but I know that the recording industry needs to be taught a lesson. They cannot abuse the law and intimidate individuals w/ invalid threats.
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by t26l July 18, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
@ToddWBeaver:

She doesn't need permission to use the music in the clip. That's the point. I'm not sure she deserves compensation, but I know that the recording industry needs to be taught a lesson. They cannot abuse the law and intimidate individuals w/ invalid threats.
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by contentcreator--2008 July 18, 2008 2:07 PM PDT
Nobody cares about the baby or the crummy audio on this particular clip. Follow the money. This is all about Youtube compensating the movie studios. When you have a million of these different clips getting served everyday and (hopefully for youtube) a lot of advertising getting sold against that viewership, the music industry is going to want and deserve a piece of that pie --- the musicians are in part the ones supplying the content making the advertising money possible. How many pennies can you give away as inconsequential before you go --- wait a minute, that's real money! They have to continue a blizzard of takedowns to establish the overall story, even if each one is individually meaningless. This lady is the blade of grass on the battlefield as the titans skirmish.
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by runswithscissorsXX July 18, 2008 2:19 PM PDT
Couldn't she sue the label for legal harassment? If the labels lawyers knew the video was *not* infringing, they had no ground to ask the video to be removed. It would still ring true if the lawyers had no clue whether the video was infringing or not.
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by TV James July 18, 2008 2:19 PM PDT
Shouldn't Prince be spending his/her time fighting irrelevance?
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by Renegade Knight July 18, 2008 2:29 PM PDT
They may not have to think about fair use, but they do need to think about the consequenses of their actions. Those consequences have an impact and that can be financial. It's not a no harm no foul situation when they infringe on fair use.
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by gerrrg July 18, 2008 4:32 PM PDT
Universal Music Group's lawyer's suggestion that it does not need to apply a litmus test in order to file a take-down notice seems an awful lot like modern Republican thinking. For instance, the government doesn't need to use a litmus test to place people on the No-Fly list, to eavesdrop, and to suspend habeas corpus. (How else could dead people appear on the No-Fly list?)

Either that, or intelligence (double entendre) just isn't worth that much, so no one uses it.
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by sanenazok July 18, 2008 4:43 PM PDT
I hope this lady wins, I mean I hope the EFF wins. It's about time take down notices require some thought.
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by wango2007 July 18, 2008 5:27 PM PDT
by ToddWBeaver
"I'd argue the video is free advertising for the music and might sell more CDs or downloads."

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All freeloaders tend to say stuff like this. The music company should be legally entitled to decide if they want free advertising or not.

In this case, the sound quality is so bad it is likely to hurt record sales.
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by Sickthing July 18, 2008 6:55 PM PDT
EFF, very nice work. I don't think this has a chance of going any place because the argument on damages is so very weak. It does send a very clear message. What is going on?, I can't copy my old digital stuff, I can if I had the expensive equipment to do it wth. I have an extremely rare copy of an Alice Cooper video that I can't get a copy of and it is on video tape that I paid for! A legal copy. I tried to get a professional to make a copy and he said the law prevents him from doing so.. He then told me I could do it if I had the right equipment! It is legal for me to do it. Has the law actually done anything for artist? i can download any tune any time so it has done NOTHING. I don't work with EFF but I hope everyone will go donate at their site!
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by imacpwr July 19, 2008 2:11 AM PDT
"The Has Been" formerly known as "Prince" and his record label will one day find themselves washed away in a "Purple Rain".
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by gabeheim July 19, 2008 6:00 AM PDT
Let me tape your mouth shut, after all, speech is not a right according to your argument. There is a reason for fair use that is protected in the constitution, it's called free speech. Copyright < 1st amendment, hence free speech. Fair use is how you say "this is my son dancing to the music he likes". For the label to send the takedown notice is a violation of her first amendment rights, freedom of speech/press. Just as if I taped your mouth shut you could go after me, criminal or civil, for violating your civil rights, she can go after the label. Or perhaps you're one of these music industry nazi's. And yes, i used that word, because if you try to thwart american's constitutional rights, whether you're the KKK using terrorism or businesses abusing the legal process, then you're no better than nazi's or communists.
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by JWreford July 19, 2008 8:27 AM PDT
If this video is considered illegal or improper use than I would have to say any home video that has music playing in the background is illegal and 90% of America should be sued. Besides the fact that the music is next to impossible to hear, I did not even know it was Prince, I fail to see how it would be considered stealing. It isn't even the entire track. Thousands of videos and mp3 are stolen every day and this is what Big Business chooses to focus on. No wonder we live in such a crappy society. Big Business is always throwing their weight around, even if they are in the wrong. If they have to start paying for damages or a fine for their stupidity then perhaps they might think twice before doing it again. They do this in the pursuit of money. They have probably made money on this some how, publicity. Prince, in my mind should step in here and apologize on behalf of this music company. Some good will or something along those lines. Show that he is a good person and that the company that releases his music isn't as dumb as they appear. As for the mother's damages... she rightly deserves damages. She had to spend her time and effort to fight back. Is your time and effort not worth compensation? Now the Music Company is saying it isn't an illegal video? Back peddling in my mind. They made a mistake that affected other people. They should have to pay. If you or I made a mistake than we would have to pay. They need to be held accountable for the actions. Not that I would ever want to hear Prince's music, I now never want to hear music that is put out but this particular music company. This is just another case of Big Business trying to hose the little man. The rich live off the backs of the poor.
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