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August 24, 2009 9:36 AM PDT

Swedish court orders shutdown of The Pirate Bay

by Greg Sandoval
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8-25-09, 8:07 a.m. To include that The Pirate Bay is back online. To see a detail story on the site go here.

A Swedish district court has ordered an Internet service provider there to stop servicing The Pirate Bay.

The most popular BitTorrent tracker in the world appeared to be inaccessible to many in the U.S. on Monday morning but the blog TorrentFreak reported that the site had found a new connection to the Web and there were reports from readers that they were able to log on to the site. Citing a source close to The Pirate Bay, TorrentFreak said that the tracker was still down but would be back up on Tuesday.

An executive with Black Internet told Swedish newspaper SvD that the court informed the company that it would either shut off The Pirate Bay or face penalties. The founders of The Pirate Bay were found guilty of copyright violations last April.

The executive told the newspaper that Black Internet is not the only ISP servicing The Pirate Bay but is probably the largest. He said none of the other ISPs were affected by the decision. He added that the company is considering options.

It's unclear how long Black Internet will be forced to stop service for The Pirate Bay. The company may not be able to resume service until the appeal filed by The Pirate Bay founders is settled, SvD reported.

The news comes on the heels of a victory for the founders of The Pirate Bay.

Sweden's government run debt-collection agency, commonly referred to as the bailiff, said it could find no attachable assets belonging to three of the four founders of the site. A group of media companies had asked the bailiff to collect the $4 million a court had awarded them after finding the four Pirate Bay founders guilty of copyright violations.

At this point, the future of the site, at least in name, appears to rest with the software maker Global Gaming Factory X, the software maker and operator of Internet cafes. The company said in June it would pay $8 million to acquire The Pirate Bay and the deal is supposed to close on Thursday. But Swedish regulators halted trading in Global Gaming on Friday over questions about the company's financial readiness to complete the transaction.

At the very least, the launch of a new Pirate Bay, one with authorized film and music copies, is unlikely to happen anytime soon.

The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry issued a statement applauding the decision by the court and Black Internet.

"The Court's ruling yet again confirms the illegality of The Pirate Bay's operation and demonstrates the liability of ISPs that provide internet services to The Pirate Bay," the IFPI wrote. "The Pirate Bay seeks to continue to infringe our members' rights on a commercial scale and further actions against ISPs who enable access to The Pirate Bay are planned."

Greg Sandoval covers media and digital entertainment for CNET News. He is a former reporter for The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. E-mail Greg, or follow him on Twitter at http://twitter.com/sandoCNET.
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by redmarine August 24, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
This is a disaster! Luckily its users copied the torrents before this.
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by c.jordan84 August 24, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
Pulls up fine to me :-D
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by August 24, 2009 10:05 AM PDT
it still comes up on my computer :/
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by Mdrc1010011010 August 24, 2009 10:07 AM PDT
This is ********, no one can have rights to information. You don't see anyone trying to collect royalties on breathing do you? If it exists, and it can be copied, then let it happen.
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by Renegade Knight August 24, 2009 10:11 AM PDT
Oh, but folks try, then they try to sell your own information back to you and call it their "IP".
by FarkTurloon August 24, 2009 11:51 AM PDT
Information no? But I do have rights to something I create - like Music. It's my talent and my effort and I should be rewarded for it. Taking it, without paying, is theft.

As to breathing - that's an inalienable right, given to man by his creator. Listening to someone else?s Music and watching DVD movies are not God given rights. Sorry.

What would be the motivation to make anything if people are just going to steal it?
by knowles2 August 24, 2009 12:15 PM PDT
But god created your give, well according to you anyway, then it god that should decide who get paid for the works should not he.

May we need to ask a priest who owns the work,
by pj-mckay August 24, 2009 12:20 PM PDT
To FarkTurloon.... Nobody is denying that folk shoiuld be rewarded but when we see high street stores, media moguls, and milionaire musicians off the back of the current system we can't help but feel ripped-off. I do buy music, and I do download some. I recently downloaded all of Dizzee Rascals as I like 'bonkers'. Half an hour later I deleted the whole lot as it was crap... similarly Radiohead. Maybe you would like me to purchase 3 x CDs at £12 then throw £36 in the bin??? No thanks! The future has to be some realisation that the existing disribution methods are a thing of the past. I want to pay a small price for music and give you a decent living but I don't want to pay £12 for you to get 10p of it, 30p for the pressing expenses, and £11.60 to the overlords and distributors. This is like the Mafia ! So, rather than bleat to me; go away and start thinking about a better way to distribute decent music without fleecing the public.
by wolivere August 24, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
@pj-mckay

So people in your mind should not be millionaires? The right to copy, and or steal is not a right, it still is a crime. The market is what decides what the value of a product is. Not the pirates.

Under your belief I should steal my electricity and gas because the guys at the top of the food chain are rich?

So we should all sit in a circle and sing happy songs, and give everything away free? Yes?

So just because you don't agree with a price, theft is still theft.
by pentest August 24, 2009 1:14 PM PDT
1. Copyright infringement is not theft. People who claim it is are either incredibly ignorant or RIAA shills, or both.

2. TPB does not host any copyright infringing material. It does nothing different then what you can do using Google.
by artistjoh August 24, 2009 2:10 PM PDT
@pentest
You are right on somethings TPB is not the thief, they are merely accomplices to theft. The thieves are people who download the music illegally. From your attitude there seems to be a good chance that you are one of them.

With traditional theft like burglary the law does not excuse a jeweler or pawn shop if they buy and sell stolen goods just because they did not personally commit the act of theft itself. Instead the fence and other accomplices are charged with handling and can go to jail if caught.

I am an artist and do not like rapacious middle men like record companies with rip-off methods who profit from our work but that does not excuse theft which affects the artist as well as the middleman. Your example is nonsense since there are plenty of affordable ways of legally purchasing music. iTunes with its ability to sell you just the song you want is a good example but there are many others.

I do not like the record companies but they look like angels when compared to those who are not prepared to pay anything for products they obtain and then make dubious moral claims to justify their actions.
by ZetaZeta_ August 24, 2009 10:11 AM PDT
It's back up, of course. They decentralized so they would never stay down (supposedly).
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by ZetaZeta_ August 24, 2009 10:46 AM PDT
nvm, see my next comment
by ZetaZeta_ August 24, 2009 10:13 AM PDT
When I try to load it, I get the page title and icon, but it hangs (but no distinct 404). They supposedly decentralized so they wouldn't stay down, though, in cases of attacks or things like this, I assume.
I'm interested in how this will play out.

The founders were found guilty of copyright infringement, but was the web site itself found to be not legal? On what grounds are they mandating the ISP shut them down?
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by 8301 August 24, 2009 5:27 PM PDT
The grounds that there's a very wealthy industry with lots of money that wants to have things its way.
by MyRightEye August 24, 2009 10:27 AM PDT
Can't load it here.
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by Anubis27 August 24, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
Works for me.
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by thompsonator August 24, 2009 11:08 AM PDT
it doesnt work for me this sucks i love that website it got me mso enterprise free
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by MyRightEye August 24, 2009 11:11 AM PDT
This is BS. I distribute many items that "I" own the copyright to, as "I" created them, through the Pirate Bay. I hope they'll be back soon.
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by viper396 August 25, 2009 12:37 AM PDT
If you are what you claim you are then you would have known there are plenty of other, more legitimate and less controversial way to distribute your material.

BTW, just because you took a DVD or Game or Music CD that you purchased, ripped it then zipped it up does not make the material yours to freely re-distribute.
by [RR]Macavity August 25, 2009 10:26 AM PDT
Oh, so people who use BitTorrent to help distribute Linux distros or episodes of Patrolling with Sean Kennedy have no right to do so, even though the one is free/open-source software and the other is a video series that the creators WANT distributed freely by any available means?

I call BS on that, viper396 - and I also call your name appropriate, because you sure act like a snake. ;)
by viper396 August 25, 2009 5:17 PM PDT
@[RR]Macavity, you either didn't read my post or you lack the intelligence to understand it as I wasn't talking about Linux distros or free/open-source software with my DVD/Game/Music CD comment. Regardless, legitimate creators of free/open-source material have plenty of legitimate and much less controversial ways to freely distributed their material on the internet. There are plenty of alternative and legitimate ways to use bittorrents to distribute legitimate material. You're an idiot if you didn't realize that and you're wasting your time trying to pretend Pirates Bay was one of those legitimate methods.
by [RR]Macavity August 27, 2009 5:57 PM PDT
Ah, but it is a legitimate use, O bearer of the serpentine name - legitimate as in "substantial non-infringing".

But of course that doesn't matter to you, O venomous lackwit. After all, I don't own the copyright to (insert piece of F/OS software and/or media here), therefore I shouldn't distribute it, even if the creator has explicitly said to go ahead and do so.

No method of distribution is "more legitimate" than another, thou of the toxic nature. All methods are equally legitimate in concept. It is the uses to which the methods are put that causes the problems, especially given the perversion of copyright that has occurred in the past few decades.

After all, if Joe Blow the cocaine dealer were to ship his Bolivian marching-powder from New York City to Albany in a General Motors truck by way of the New York State Thruway, the cops wouldn't go after General Motors for making the truck he used, because trucks can just as easily carry legitimate cargoes (such as cases of Sprite or pallets of TVs) as illicit ones.

Nor would they try to dismantle the NYS Department of Transportation (which maintains the Thruway) simply because he drove his truckful of cocaine up to Albany on the Thruway. They're just there to keep the roads in good repair.

Except . . . that's what's happening here. All you need to do is substitute computers for trucks, data for the cargo they carry, and BitTorrent for the NYSDOT/interstate highway system.
by MINDCTRL August 24, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
USA east cost: site down, all torrent trackers coming out of piratebay are down. life will cease to be
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by redmarine August 24, 2009 11:31 AM PDT
They are copied by its users. Seems like the users to protect the torrents had to copy the Pirate Bay itself. Pirate Bay's torrents will live on.
by res2216firestar August 24, 2009 11:24 AM PDT
Brokep (Peter Sunde), claims that opendns users can access the website, but me (midwest U.S.), and an online acquaintance in Europe, both using opendns, cannot get to it.
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by MyRightEye August 24, 2009 12:55 PM PDT
I am using OpenDNS and can NOT access it.
by PSmith August 24, 2009 11:10 PM PDT
Same here, US east coast - no luck using OpenDNS, the site cannot be found. :(
by NervClaX August 24, 2009 11:48 AM PDT
The whole legal campaign against The Pirate Bay is but one chapter in a never-ending saga of "Whack a Mole" against file-sharing. If it's digital, it will be copied, posted, shared, and pirated.
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by [RR]Macavity August 25, 2009 10:28 AM PDT
You forgot "remixed" and "mashed up".
by mrmetoo99 August 24, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
This isn't going to do much.... It's like trying to kill cockroaches, it just doesn't happen...

TorrentBlaze.com
Mininova.org
Demonoid.com

list goes on and on...
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by Michichael August 24, 2009 12:06 PM PDT
Weird. 19 comments but I can't see any of them....

Anyway, yeah. Go go MafIAA. Seriously though, I can't wait til those companies are dead. I don't really listen to music or watch movies - I'm a gamer, but I'm sick of hearing crap like this. I've used TPB to find linux distros, WoW patches, and archaic software to support some of our old business apps (Netware 3.12 anyone?) It was the only place I could find the netware software, even though we're licensed for it - the floppies we had were bad.
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by c.jordan84 August 24, 2009 12:23 PM PDT
Gulf Coast reporting in: no access to TPB, even when using opendns. That's bunk.
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by Dj Czr August 24, 2009 12:36 PM PDT
Its all about Control!!! And the people are too controlled to do anything and too comfortable to want to do anything . but, yet they want their Films LOl .
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by redmarine August 24, 2009 1:11 PM PDT
Well, I'm sure the Pirate Bay will counter sue this very soon. Their servers will be up by tomorrow morning according to the Pirate Bay crew.
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by Havoc70 August 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
Who cares now anyway, unfortunately TPB is no longer what it used to be and never will be again.
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by redmarine August 24, 2009 3:31 PM PDT
No matter what you say their legacy will live on.
by viper396 August 25, 2009 12:40 AM PDT
@redmarine "No matter what you say their legacy will live on. "


Yeah, just like Napster did.. {roll eyes}
by Phategod1 August 24, 2009 2:34 PM PDT
For last time its not stealing when someone offers up the file freely and willingly. its sharing not stealing wow why do we prosecute someone for sharing something thats already theres. Why not hunt down people who make copies of CD's for there friends or remove the Burn feature from most PC's and CD software. How about fining everyone who ever made a "mixtape" for there girlfriend jeesh!
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by viper396 August 25, 2009 12:59 AM PDT
"For last time its not stealing when someone offers up the file freely and willingly. its sharing not stealing"

Yeah, just keep telling yourself that.

Maybe your parents didn't teach you well enough, but it's simple right from wrong. You're obviously just trying to justify your own actions. Everyone has probable done it in some way or another, but at least be man enough to acknowledge it without making lame excuses.
by benjamin_dover August 25, 2009 3:07 PM PDT
Sounds like a thief, plain and simple. What if your daughter made some artwork and then made one hundred copies to sell to help pay for her college. Then she gave one to the next door neighbor.

And then your neighbor made 10,000 copies and "shared" them away and then no one wanted to buy one from her, since they already had a copy.
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