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June 25, 2009 3:33 PM PDT

Michael Jackson's death roils Wikipedia

by Declan McCullagh
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As news organizations reported Michael Jackson's hospitalization on Thursday afternoon, Wikipedia editors were wrestling with the problem of whether to allow an unverified report of the singer's death to appear on the online encyclopedia.

Michael Jackson, age 13, poses in his home in Encino, Calif., in 1972. He earned his first No. 1 solo record that year with "Ben."

(Credit: CBS)

The entertainment site TMZ.com reported at 2:20 p.m. PDT that: "We're told when paramedics arrived Jackson had no pulse and they never got a pulse back."

Some Wikipedians repeatedly deleted references to Jackson's alleged demise, saying in separate comments that "This is not yet verified," "He's not dead," "Premature edits," and "ONCE AGAIN, HE IS NOT DEAD, JUST STOP."

But they were too slow for the legions of Wikipedia users who descended on the site and repeatedly modified the entry about the pop star. The typical edit was to insert Thursday as the date of Jackson's demise. Others were more subtle; one used the word "was" instead of "is," while another edit called "Invincible" his "last studio album."

By around 3:15 p.m. PDT, Wikipedia appeared to be temporarily overloaded. The site reported the error: "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties... Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.6.24))"

Plenty of blogs echoed TMZ's report, but news organizations tended to be more cautious. Fox News said Jackson's "condition wasn't immediately clear," while Reuters cited TMZ.

The Los Angeles Times initially reported that Jackson was in a coma, and then updated its story at 3:15 p.m. PDT to say: "Pop star Michael Jackson was pronounced dead by doctors this afternoon after arriving at a hospital in a deep coma, city and law enforcement sources told The Times." (The Times' Web server was overloaded and could only be reached intermittently.)

Around the same time, the Wikipedia editors had finally intervened in the edit-and-delete-the-edits scrum. One locked two articles about Jackson and his health for about six hours, which prevented them from being modified until the situation became more clear.

Declan McCullagh is a contributor to CNET News and a correspondent for CBSNews.com who has covered the intersection of politics and technology for over a decade. Declan writes a regular feature called Taking Liberties, focused on individual and economic rights; you can bookmark his CBS News Taking Liberties site, or subscribe to the RSS feed. You can e-mail Declan at declan@cbsnews.com.
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by dudesmiles June 25, 2009 4:08 PM PDT
RIP Michael! He was too young for this BSOD!
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by wojx June 26, 2009 9:55 AM PDT
"BSOD." LOL.
by epross June 25, 2009 4:16 PM PDT
He was an amazing performer who led a troubled life. RIP Michael.
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by Havoc70 June 25, 2009 4:19 PM PDT
Yawn...must be a slow news day
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by Police_States_of_America June 25, 2009 4:30 PM PDT
^this
by TimMyers June 25, 2009 4:34 PM PDT
Haha
by xenophod June 25, 2009 4:37 PM PDT
So who owns the Beatles collection now? Heartless? Maybe. But I really could care less about this guy, he had talent that he wasted on his various perversions.
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by Rants&Raves June 25, 2009 8:48 PM PDT
Whatever; what have you done in your life that makes you so much grander than him ?
by SJ2571 June 26, 2009 3:04 AM PDT
@jaguar717: Molested children, did he? You know you can sued for saying that if you have no proof... we can only hope someone in his legal team does.
by Rants&Raves June 26, 2009 3:47 AM PDT
jaguar717: that's the classic case of pathetic responses these days. People who are so steeped in a sense of inadequacy that they think they can raise themselves above the crowds by lowering a figure higher than self. Like the losers who were criticizing Mother Teresa when she died, so-and-so because he enjoys his well-earned success (Guy Laliberte comes to mind), or journos who will not consider a biography complete until a good half of it is turned into a mud-racking session (not talking about this article, but we've seen our fair share of bios this week and the recipe never fails to sicken).
by rickhigginshtbr June 26, 2009 6:18 AM PDT
Didn't Sony take control of 75% of it a few years ago?
by skrubol June 26, 2009 11:11 AM PDT
Rants&Raves: Isn't comparing Jackson to Mother Teresa a wee bit of a stretch?
While he was never convicted of anything major, he was at very least, a wierdo and had troubling tendencies.
His death was no more a tragedy as any of the other hundreds of thousands of people who probably died yesterday.
by Rants&Raves June 26, 2009 2:51 PM PDT
@skrubol: Basic reading comprehension pal. I'm comparing the kinds of reactions, not the people being reacted to.
by ajac009 June 25, 2009 4:52 PM PDT
someone dying makes it a slow news day? get a heart
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by nazzer1991 June 25, 2009 5:00 PM PDT
RIP the king of pop, the music will live on
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by cvaldes1831 June 25, 2009 6:41 PM PDT
This is why I gave up editing Wikipedia a couple of years ago. The community there is totally broken.
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by battlefella June 26, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
I'd say this is an example of wikipedia working as it should - when the initial flurry of edits results in disputes, the page is locked for a short while, information becomes clearer, and things progress. I don't see the admin action being over the top, and yes, when you allow the general public to edit, you will get a rush of action when facts (and rumours) change. But it all sorts itself out after a very short while.
by fletchb June 27, 2009 11:16 AM PDT
But the blockers were wrong and delayed the truth so not sure I would say it worked as it should.
by JCPayne June 28, 2009 12:07 AM PDT
Short memory??? This was a perfectly good policy... You might remember TMZ threw the news community for a loop a few months back with the **faked** Rihanna pictures. They are a hit and miss new source.


Google "Rihanna fake photo TMZ"
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=Rihanna+fake+photo+TMZ&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&fp=OzgK0dwM7rU
by Mr. Dee June 25, 2009 6:43 PM PDT
Rip MJ - Let Sadness see what Happy does, Let Happy be where Sadness was.
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by BtmnHatesRbn June 25, 2009 7:26 PM PDT
Like Elvis, Jackson isn't dead, he just wanted to go home.

Ironically, his death is similar to the death of Elvis, involving drugs to stay alive and poor health, and dying at home in his middle age.
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by June 25, 2009 7:54 PM PDT
LOL....the Wiki-Gestapo at their finest. Even one of the adminish people over there saying, "Be sure to discuss it with ME" before you add any type of content.

Does the "Encylopedia that anyone can edit" now have specific editors assigned to specific pages...sounds like it.
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by viper396 June 26, 2009 3:15 PM PDT
Get over yourself. Your juvenile response to the matter is why Wikipedia must now monitor and edit articles about famous personalities. After all the prior instances of some moron claiming someone was dead when they weren't Wikipedia has no choice but to restricting these kind of edits until the information can be 100% verified.

Free speech is a priveledge but it doesn't entitle you to be irresponsible. One day you might grow up and understand that.
by jcomputm June 25, 2009 8:26 PM PDT
Hey, listen:

My grandma is a huge fan of this guy. After hearing that he had a cardiac arrest, she just wanted real-time info. To me going to wikipedia was like getting the true encyclopedic info that I always depend on. But to find a lot of wikipedians (yes I have an account with wikipedia) just constantly updating the Michael Jackson article just means that they just overload the network traffic. I am an eye-witness here. When I went to the Michael Jackson article, I saw a template above saying that "this article is constantly beign edited", and if you try to edit the article, you "may get an edit conflict message". So basically, I say: I really need to keep an eye on these big events.
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by hissingturtle2 June 25, 2009 11:23 PM PDT
really,

Get a life
by sahilk June 25, 2009 9:19 PM PDT
rip... :(
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by andraprakoso June 26, 2009 2:58 AM PDT
RIP MICHAEL JACKSON
we always miss you

http://sibangor.blogspot.com/2009/06/michael-jackson-died.html
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by Issaland June 26, 2009 4:50 AM PDT
Rest in peace, Michael! You'll be always in my heart as an great artist and sensitive, good human being who wanted better wold "for you and for me" [*][*][*]
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by inachu1 June 26, 2009 5:16 AM PDT
Big babies who control the content who have the say so over the words on Wikipedia....

Should have known this would happen and wikipedia should have a grafitti page of loyal followers who usually more knowlegable than the person preventing the massive wikipedia spamming.

If it is trutful and news worthy keep it in but to outright within seconds or minutes deleting right way should mean the person deleting the content himself/herself turn off their computer and walk away.
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by codynews June 26, 2009 6:13 AM PDT
I think the cnet story is about the 100000 "me first!" tools that have to be the one to actually type the words into wikipedia for the update.

Not sure why so many internet idiots just HAD to update his site that he died -- epically after the first reports were just from TMZ (might as well been reported via a Perez Hilton tweet).

I mean geeze, how "real time" does an ENCYCLOPAEDIA need to be? Let the man be officially pronounced dead for crying out loud, then simply update the page with the info. If these wikidots were not so narcissistic, there would not have been this story.

Cody
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by mwacky June 26, 2009 7:12 AM PDT
Wikipedia is not Twitter folks, it is meant as a reference encyclopedia not a real time opinion feed.
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by bluemist9999 June 26, 2009 8:25 AM PDT
I believe the Wikipedia admins did the right thing. Until MJ's death was confirmed by reliable sources, his Wikipedia entry shouldn't say that.

RIP Michael Jackson.
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by Raabscuttle June 26, 2009 8:49 AM PDT
Once again Wiki-NAZIS at their finest. Just TRY to edit a page that sone Wiki-Nazi is campped on (David Copperfield comes to mind).
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by cheerleader9998212 June 26, 2009 9:56 AM PDT
i dont really care he hurts kids now people who live on his street can walk up and down the side of there streets and noy be afraid to get attacked my mj hiding in da bushes
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by viper396 June 29, 2009 12:30 PM PDT
He hurts people? Really? Do you have proof of this? Because two separate proceedings and 14 individual jury members with actual evidence say otherwise. Does it make you feel better to demonize the man even after his death?



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