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March 24, 2009 7:08 PM PDT

Facebook changes to address user complaints

by Jennifer Guevin
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Within hours of being published, thousands of people "liked" Christopher Cox's message to Facebook users.

(Credit: Jennifer Guevin/CNET)

Facebook users haven't exactly been reticent about their dislike for Facebook's recent redesign. And Facebook staff want you to know they're listening.

Facebook has been deluged with feedback on its new layout, much of it negative but constructive, according to a blog posted Tuesday by Product Director Christopher Cox. Hundreds of thousands of people gave the redesign a thumbs-down in a user poll. And groups like "MEMBERS WANT THE OLD FACEBOOK BACK!" have formed to voice their discontent.

While the social network isn't reverting back to the old page design, they are making a handful of changes to appease some of the outraged masses, according to Cox, who has also worked as director of human resources and software engineer at the company.

Some of the changes already in the works include:

  • Live updating: Users will have the ability to turn on auto updating so they don't have to refresh the page to see what's new.
  • Photo tags: Facebook will add photos tagged with a person's friends to her stream.
  • Applications: Users will have the ability to cut down on the application-related content that's showing up in streams.
  • Highlights: This section in the right-hand column will update more frequently and show more content so it'll be more like the old News Feed.
  • Requests: Friend requests and event invites will be moved to the top of the right-hand column so they're more prominent.
  • Friends lists: Users will be able to create a new list of friends with which to filter their streams.

From the post: "Over time, we'll continue to give you more control over what's in your main stream and how you consume it. We have the eventual goal of building filters that summarize this activity so you can see a more condensed view of what's been going on. We're also thinking about ways of filtering out some of the Wall posts and content directed to specific people to focus more on posts shared with everyone."

No specific timeframe was mentioned for most of the updates, though they did say the photo tag update would happen "in the coming weeks."

To be sure, it can't be easy to redesign a site with 175 million users. For one thing, different people use the site very differently, so one man's feature is another's peeve. Many of Facebook's users are online and interacting with the site for hours each day and no doubt have a personal connection to what goes on there. And as Cox points out in his post, sometimes change is just hard to take.

Cox, the brave soul that he is, invited yet more feedback from users, directing people to the tour of the redesign where people can leave their comments.

Jennifer Guevin is assistant managing editor of CNET News. She focuses on science and green tech. But she also makes the occasional contribution to CNET's kitchen gadgets blog or writes about the latest Web distraction. Once a week, she takes the mic as host of CNET's Daily News Podcast. E-mail Jennifer.
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by metalmistress March 24, 2009 7:22 PM PDT
all people ever do is complain. theyre never pleased about anything. i thought the new layout was decent. i had no problems with it at all.
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by bakedpatato March 24, 2009 7:44 PM PDT
agreed. I don't get the fuss. I think the new layout makes everything seamless. kudos Mark.
by elemsee March 24, 2009 9:00 PM PDT
# Friends lists: Users will be able to create a new list of friends with which to filter their streams.
-- this is already and has long been a feature.

# Photo tags: Facebook will add photos tagged with a person's friends to her stream.
-- this just adds more ^&*%*% to clutter up the stream!

These changes do not address any of the more sane complaints that have been posted:

-- the cool little "see more/see less" stories option.
-- the useless left-nav filters that do not include "Status" and often include applications that you have not added
-- The style change displaying status updates, wall posts and Link comments as visually the same.
-- They've removed the ability to "see more/see less" from people in general. You either have to axe them or suffer
-- the non user-friendly publisher.

New behavior: Friend posts 17 pictures in an album. All seventeen pictures display in the news feed, large thumbnails in batches of 3. Over an inch deep for each batch. Plus, comments made on the photo album itself display with each batch of three. The SAME three comments.

There is a large amount of people complaining simply because they do not like change. Many of these people cannot articulate what they don't like. But there *are* valid complaints and most of what you've reported above does not address them.
by badasscat March 25, 2009 7:50 AM PDT
Not all of us like Twitter. That's why we're on Facebook in the first place. If I want Twitter, I'll sign up at Twitter and use Twitter. Making Facebook more like Twitter doesn't make me want to stay on Facebook, it makes me want to leave the site altogether. (In fact, my usage of Facebook has definitely dropped since the redesign; I just find it a lot less useful and interesting.)

And if I did use both Twitter and Facebook, now I'd have a lot less reason to use both and a lot more reason to just stick with Twitter, which now looks more like the original that Facebook is trying unsuccessfully to copy.
by paulimusmaximus March 25, 2009 4:45 PM PDT
@badasscat

I agree, I don't like Twitter, since I can basically do the same thing with facebook, AND see other things, like photos, and if I feel like it do quizzes, surveys, or whatever. What they should do is let you easily click on and off the options you want for the main page. Like maybe some people only want to see status updates. But I like seeing more info like new photos, etc, and if my friends took quizzes, and likenesses and so on, and don't want to have to click on a bunch of crap to get to what I want. I usually only check facebook once a day or every other day, but I do think that I do less on the site now since they only things I see easily when I log on are status updates.
by meechp123 March 26, 2009 7:59 AM PDT
Same here. I had no issues with the layout.

People just moan and groan.

At least Facebook is smart enough to listen and make some adjustments.
by Inconnux March 26, 2009 10:35 AM PDT
Facebook doesn't care at all what the users think, you will like the new layout or else you can leave.
by bbnet2000 March 24, 2009 7:44 PM PDT
thanks
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by Gabey8 March 24, 2009 7:48 PM PDT
Those are good ideas, but there are a few customizations we need to be able to make.

We need the option to filter out certain types of content (say, gifts) without filtering out the PERSON. I don't need to see 20 separate listings that my friend sent a peanut butter sandwich to 20 of his friends... especially if I don't even know any of those 20 friends.

Failing that, I want the ability to group all that info into ONE EVENT. "Joe Schmo sent a peanut butter sandwich to Jack Sprat, John Doe, Jane Doe..." etc.

Otherwise, my whole front page gets inundated by peanut butter sandwich gifts. It makes it hard to find the content I actually want to see.
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by gbswales1 March 29, 2009 3:13 AM PDT
int that issue addressed by -
"Applications: Users will have the ability to cut down on the application-related content that's showing up in streams."
I guess the problem facebook is up against since opening out its membership is that it has to appeal to all ages - it is not unknown to find 3 generations of one family on facebook now - I do find the new facebook confusing in places but then I didnt like the old one much either
by March 24, 2009 8:05 PM PDT
I had no concerns with the layout, but the masses have spoken.
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by jimspice March 24, 2009 8:18 PM PDT
It'll be nice to have live feed back.
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by the_ricochet March 24, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
I don't get how they didn't make the news feed auto-update in the first place. It's pretty antiquated to require an entire page refresh for a site as big as Facebook.
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by RighteousSoutherner March 24, 2009 8:59 PM PDT
What an overrated service in the first place. I still can't understand how people like that hokey site compared to Linkedin. It's the worst layout I've ever seen on a Web site. Now they've gone and mucked it up further. I can't even find my groups anymore! Where the f**k did they go?!!
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by ctfoley March 24, 2009 9:02 PM PDT
everybody hates updates, until they love them. this reminds me of the facebook newsfeed uproar years ago.
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by dracoaffectus March 24, 2009 9:28 PM PDT
"Friends lists: Users will be able to create a new list of friends with which to filter their streams."

Isn't this feature already implemented in the new layout? The first thing I did when i saw the new layout was set up friends lists specifically so i could filter the news feed.


I'd really like to see live updates implemented ASAP.

I'd also like to see a way to change which apps show up on the app stream filter list.


I'm pretty happy with the new layout. I love how I can filter the news feed according to friends lists!
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by wesisw_ March 24, 2009 9:46 PM PDT
Yup. Actually, it was implemented in the old design too. There was a dropdown near the top-right of the news feed to filter by app or friend list. Now it's just discoverable and sortable.
by nicmart March 24, 2009 9:35 PM PDT
It's a small thing, but didn't we lose the option of having no picture connected with shared articles?
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by zidanetribal21 March 25, 2009 5:59 PM PDT
Yeah, we did. I tried sharing a CNet story today about projectplaylist, and the homepage has some pictures of users... so i had the choice of ten different girls or boys posing in revealing ways... and no option for no image.
by somniferous March 24, 2009 10:33 PM PDT
My biggest issue with the new layout is the not having a big enough visual distinction between status updates, wall postings, and links. Makes it a bit harder to see relevant info. I also miss the time stamp they removed on some items, replaced with just recent activity. Other than those two issues I don;t have much of a gripe.
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by iruka* March 26, 2009 8:15 PM PDT
Yeah, I agree. It was ok until I saw that almost all posts looked the same O.o

Also, when you're on your own profile, the little box where you update your status.....it looks as if it's for writing on your wall instead of status updating cause of what it says under the box. That confused me at first o.o

And having to see all those pictures everyone puts up kind of got annoying after a while xD
by Mweaver2k9 March 24, 2009 10:38 PM PDT
Way to screw up FB. As if the news feed wasn't cluttered enough. What on earth spurred them to make changes in the first place? Did they get user feedback requesting it? Doubtful. They got 175mil people the way it was. Way to break something that was working.

Seem more/See Less would fix a lot of problems. This "change" doesn't make a squat bit of difference. And it's gonna be great to see every single tagged photo that's posted. I may have to ask all my friends/family to cut back on posting photos.
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by March 25, 2009 2:49 AM PDT
My thoughts: (apologies if the comment it too long).

*** 1: The new design didn't add significant functionality.

1a- The old design already had live updates (actually live though), and filtering by friend group, status, photos, etc.

1b- The only "new" functionality was to filter by 3rd party applications - most of which are rubbish.

1c- Indeed, the old functionality of being able to dial up or down what and who you found interesting - it's gone.

*** 2: The new design is "dumb", rather than intelligent.

2a- The old "social graph" algorithm worked for me. It digested hundreds of friends and thousands of "data" into a digestible, interesting, useful home page.

2b- The new stream is always the last hour, and if I didn't block every 3rd party app I find, it would probably be littered with quizzed and sheep throwing. Further, since I check Facebook late at the end of the day, my home stream is almost exclusively west coast people, instead of my local friends who are most interesting to me.

2c- Twitter is about the "stream", it was founded as a micro-blog. Facebook is NOT about the stream - it was founded as, and ought to be, an intelligent address book that functions like a yearbook, collecting memories with photos, and your friends scribbled notes on the inside "walls" of the book.

MOST IMPORTANT TO ME:
*** 3: The new design reverts Facebook back to 2005.

3a- Profile changes (groups joined, relationship status, interest changes) are left completely unpublished, and thus we're left having to go profile to profile, and trying to remember what was and was not there, in order to find out some of the most interesting aspects of our friends (for me, namely, their relationship statuses - completely and totally obscure now).

3b- The new highlights section has SOME group joins, and you can even hack the URL to filter by groups, but neither are nearly as sufficient as the old Home Feed. And of course, it's cramped, minimal in number, and absolutely not customizable, so I don't count it.

***
Just one more thought: I do agree that there is some truth in the idea that companies who are bold and not afraid to go against their customers from time to time do end up pioneering some good ideas, however here's how this is different:

This isn't Ford or Apple, Facebook is not selling a product, it's dealing in the exchange of *our* contributions, *our* data. Facebook doesn't just make money from us - Facebook is ABOUT us.

If Facebook wants to abandon what we're here for and try and be some player in this new microblogging Twitter market, then it should spin off another site, or at very least, retain the important address book/ yearbook functionality in a meaningful way rather than attempt to Steve Jobs'ianly force its will on us by telling us "You don't really want to connect with old friends... you want to discover new ones," - because that's wrong.
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by trgdr777 March 25, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. I've had no problems with the changes to Facebook in the past and often thought people complained too much, but this update is different. It actually made things harder to use, and I end up spending less time on the site because of it. I never asked for Facebook to become Twitter. It served a completely different purpose for me, and the new design does nothing but hinder that purpose. I was glad to see that they were listening to the complaints, but I don't see anything in the listed changes that fixes the real problems. It's really disappointing.
by arcanus2 March 25, 2009 6:02 AM PDT
They're just like Microsoft, adding a new "feature" to IE8 rather than giving up the old engine :P
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by artistjoh March 25, 2009 7:30 AM PDT
There was a time when Facebook was simple and pleasant to use. They lost me when they told me they were "simplifying it by making it multi-page with tabs. Now the only thing I use is the message page and that less and less. When they think that people want major redesigns every few weeks they will tick off more and more people. Why can't they work out that if the site is growing rapidly it is probably because it is right already. Changing a winning formula over and over again could easily reverse their growth pattern.

Facebook became popular because it was simpler than the cluttered MySpace. By adding features left right and center they are becoming the same kind of annoying site that we were escaping in the first place.
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by danielhodge March 25, 2009 7:45 AM PDT
I don't really care much that facebook changes the layout of it service. The new design seems more streamlined and efficient. The users that complain about it need to give it a chance.
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by yankeeforever March 25, 2009 7:53 AM PDT
If someone is spending hours a day on that silly Facebook thing, they need to get a life. Cultivate some new friends who are not just a name on some website. If these people these people are not housebound...they need to get out more!
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by gbswales1 March 29, 2009 3:22 AM PDT
Actually the silly people who spend hours on facebook are the ones who suffer least by changes - it is a great way to keep up with family and friends who are far away. I believe that people often use this as a way to let people know things that they would not if it was by telephone or letter. Going out more puts you in touch with people who are local to you.

Its also a good way giving out all your news without having to bore people at length - they can read just the bits they want to know about and the same applies in reverse. Facebook is a useful addition to life, it shouldnt of course replace life
by inverse137 March 25, 2009 10:43 AM PDT
My comment isn't really about Facebook per se. It is more about what "a small but vocal portion of followers" can do.

Change doesn't always come about because we agree as a majority that something needs to change. A significant portion of the time change will occur when "a small but vocal portion of followers" shouts often enough and loud enough to attract attention. It is the mentality that the louder you shout the more correct you are.

Somewhere along the line with the whole political correctness movement we lost sight of the option we had to just as frequently and loudly tell that "small but vocal" group to ****.

Again, I'm not really thinking about FB, which is essentially irrelevant in the happiness and prosperity of peoples lives. I was thinking more about the extreme right nut jobs and how they rose to power over the past 8 years and how we, the majority, let them.

I don't really care about the layout of FB. It does what I need and seems to work well enough for what I pay for it every month. The point is; why is a small but vocal group allowed to have any power at all?

How was Bush/Cheney and company allowed to screw the country so bad and we didn't stand up and say ****! We sat passively by as soldiers died and our wealth disappeared. We watched "Reality TV" as the number of people without medical care grew to 1 in 5. 20% of our population doesn't have medical coverage and we sat quietly by as "a small but vocal portion of followers" told us that nationalized health care was a bad idea. It didn?t matter that the U.S. is the only major country without nationalized health care. That small group shouted often and loudly and people followed.

The re-design of FB is a non-issue, but it can be used as a metaphor for a passive country.

What happened to this country?
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by sandstorm27 March 26, 2009 1:00 AM PDT
Wait till Obama/FootInMouth get done... In less than 4 years we won't recognize the U.S. & how much debt we're in for his "equal outcomes socialism" policies. Our money will become worthless & no one to buy it so he can spend even more. Be prepared.. Buy physical gold NoW!
by Harrison912 March 25, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
As you say, FaceBook users are there for different reasons and everyone has their peeves and praises for different aspects. I'm there, like other business owners to socially market my business. Safety and security are important so I like to connect with people personally to raise awareness for the need for my products.

My pet peeve is the loss of the birthday calendar for my friends. I find it's important to drop by my friends page and wish them a happy birthday but I can't seem to find that information all in one place and I certainly don't have the time to visit each of my frinds homepage to write their birthday down.

I hope they fix this for me : )
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by placidia March 31, 2009 9:36 AM PDT
The birthday calendar is still available. You have to go to Events (calendar icon on the bottom menu) and then to the Birthdays tab (last one on the right). As with many of the favorite older features, they did a great job hiding it with this new layout.

I agree with what's been said about not being able to make certain people or story types preferential. I also actually miss the old newsfeed (which I am guilty of hating at its onset) that showed profile updates that informed me of changes in friends' interests, tastes, or relationship statuses. My old Facebook allowed me to say I wanted to see more stories about my best friends than about people I haven't talked to since high school. Now I either have to see everything everyone does with every idiotic application, or block a person entirely. I don't want to do either - the old way was far superior.
by hawkeyeaz1 March 25, 2009 1:20 PM PDT
Facebook should just create a layout that the user can alter to their liking, kind of like iGoogle's, where you can add/remove or move things around. Honestly, that would help out a lot.
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