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January 27, 2009 5:20 PM PST

Bartz wants Yahoo whole, not sold in pieces

by Stephen Shankland

Carol Bartz, Yahoo's brand-new CEO, revealed her first public assessment of embattled Yahoo on Tuesday, arguing the company is stronger as a whole than as the sum of its parts.

"This is a fantastic Internet property, and it doesn't deserve everybody trying to pick it and pull it apart," Bartz said in a conference call after Yahoo reported mixed fourth-quarter results. Looking at statistics such as how many people use Yahoo, how long they stay on the site, and how they value its properties, she said, "This is not a company that needs to be pulled apart and left for the chickens."

Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz

Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz

(Credit: Yahoo)

The obvious question is what that means for the possibility of selling the search business to Microsoft, a possibility that emerged last year, though the companies couldn't agree to terms. Bartz wouldn't rule out that transaction nor declare it a great idea, but her tone left the impression she'll need more convincing.

Specifically, she said she's not going to put the interests of short-term shareholders looking for a stock pop ahead of the long-term investors who are more patient for the company to improve its operations.

"It's my job to make sure that as a company we look at anything that makes sense long-term for the company and creates shareholder value. It's very easy to have different shareholder interests. Some are short-term so they can jump out, and some (are) long term. It's our job to make sure we're looking at the bell curve of shareholder value," she said. "Everything is on the table."

Whither search?
She shared a smidgen of thinking about the search business specifically, though she qualified it with the comment that Yahoo would have to invest in it regardless of whether the company wanted to keep it or sell it. For one thing, it's "extremely useful" to understand users' intent through searches. For another, query growth, stemmed market share losses to Google, and faster introduction "increases the value of the product. It's good for our brand and our shareholders, no matter what our long-term plan."

Chief Financial Officer Blake Jorgensen also went into some detail about the search business.

"We're building off the road map, first with Panama (Yahoo's search ad sales system) and now with our continued innovation with Search Assist, SearchMonkey. It's helped us stabilize the share," Jorgensen said. And Yahoo's numerous and often high-traffic properties help keep search ticking, he added.

There were some encouraging statistics for Yahoo's search business. Revenue increased 11 percent globally and 18 percent in the United States, Jorgensen said. In the United States, search queries increased 10 percent compared with the year-earlier quarter. Overall, revenue per search grew in the high single digits, he said.

But not all is well. Google last week was relatively bullish about its search-ad business, reiterating its argument that the directly measurable return on advertising investments make it stronger during times of economic trouble. Jorgensen, in contrast, offered a note of caution that the economy means people aren't searching for things to buy as often. "We're tending to see cost-per-click growth, but click yields and fewer commercial queries are starting to impact revenues in general," Jorgensen said.

In defense of Yahoo
She continued with the assertive tone set in her introductory press conference just two weeks ago, coming out guns-a-blazin' as a strong Yahoo advocate, someone who's willing do what's right rather than come up with potentially damaging quick fixes.

"I didn't come here to sell the company," she asserted.

The stock market responded with a collective optimism to Bartz's debut and the financial results, pushing the stock up 59 cents, or 5 percent, to $11.93 in after-hours trading.

There was no question who's in charge of the company now. Former CEO Jerry Yang was present during the conference call, but for whatever reason didn't make so much as a peep during the question-and-answer session.

Wooing younger users
Microsoft isn't the only company Bartz is monitoring. Facebook, too, with its younger users, also is on the list. As the mother of a 20 year old, "I'm very familiar with Facebook," Bartz said.

And while it's nice to have the young users on your site, "They do grow up," Bartz said. People in their late 20s are "much more interested in Yahoo Finance. They don't have all day to put pictures up and chat because guess what, they're off the dole," she said.

And, she added, that age group is easily jaded. "Just as MySpace was hot and it moved to Facebook, who knows what's next? We have a lot going on. We're dabbling in it with Yahoo Open Strategy. I was surprised. We have a demographic that serves the entire Web. I think we can get some growth in other areas," she said, mentioning that aging baby boomers are less technically intimidated than today's senior set.

Bartz has a lot of work ahead of her and didn't pretend otherwise. Specifically, she pointed to communication problems within the company, a muddy presentation of its strategy, slow decision-making, and a lack of focus. She'll "move swiftly" to right these wrongs, she said. And of course the economy is dismal.

The sober tones seemed present more to assure the audience that she wasn't a pollyanna. Overall, it seemed outweighed by the kind of optimistic tone one might expect from a new CEO. Twice she said Yahoo's prospects look better from within the company than from the gloom-and-doom press view she got in 2008.

"If we have strong products, we will attract the audience that just beats everything," she said. "It's not just about search. It's about people coming for content and information."

Stephen Shankland writes about a wide range of technology and products, but has a particular focus on browsers and digital photography. He joined CNET News in 1998 and since then also has covered Google, Yahoo, servers, supercomputing, Linux and open-source software, and science. E-mail Stephen, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/stshank.

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by AppleSuxLeo January 27, 2009 8:49 PM PST
Nothing new here. Like the same old gas station with the "under new management" sign.
[CNET editor's note: Objectionable content deleted]
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by MSSlayer January 27, 2009 9:51 PM PST
You still upset that dough-boy failed? You should be thankful or your object of worship may not even exist.
by jlm429 January 28, 2009 1:46 PM PST
She is obviously very familiar with facebook. good luck with that.
by Millerboy January 27, 2009 9:07 PM PST
Yahoo has always been in a tricky place. They are at the crossroads of the Internet/tech and "old media." It is clear that throughout their brief life, Yahoo has been both an Internet technology company and a mass media company and vacillated between both. The founding headquarters in Silicon Valley and the emphasis on software technology, search, Yahoo Messenger, Yahoo Mail, etc. compared to the more recent new headquarters in Hollywood and the previous CEO Terry Semel signals a change in DNA and a shift to a mass media corporation. They tried to do both and they failed at both. Sometimes you can't be the Jack-Of-All Trades, but you have to be the Master of One.

Obviously, Yahoo is the most popular for being a web portal (homepage) providing news & information and Yahoo's second best area of expertise is social tools such as IM, email, community and so forth. All of these things link to each other and provide more reason to use Yahoo, it's a one-stop site for all of your daily needs.

The technology side, Internet or otherwise, can be outsourced to Microsoft if they wanted to or if it was distracting them from their core competency. They can always make a temporary advertising deal with Microsoft, or temporary search deal. They don't have to sell off their search. Microsoft made a large investment in Apple in the late 1990s, Sony once partnered with Nintendo, Yahoo used Google for their web search engine, etc.

Whatever Yahoo does, I recommend that Yahoo pick their fate and stick with it. They can decide to stay the course and be involved both in Internet technology and mass media OR they can focus on ONE of the two areas. It cannot be 50/50 because then both products and services will suck, a better alternative would be focusing 70% on media/web portal and 30% on technology/search engine.
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by Inconnux January 27, 2009 10:11 PM PST
I stopped using yahoo when they "redesigned" the main page. I detested it so I switched to the competition. Google gives me the option of how I want my homepage to look so I don't have to worry about them moving everything on me. I quit facebook for the same reason. I detested the 'new' facebook so I deleted my account. And lets not get into how crappy the Vista interface is now.

Note to tech companies! STOP SCREWING WITH THE INTERFACE. Give us options whether to use the new one or not. If you don't, you will lose customers.
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by amardeshbd January 31, 2009 5:20 AM PST
If you are talking about iGoogle page where you can customize small info box or applications, then Yahoo! has similar tool too. Its known as My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com || anyway... just to let you know... i like iGoogle's simple look than MyYahoo!

- Good Luck
by YankeePoodle January 28, 2009 6:05 AM PST
Yahoo is not being held back by the content it produces, actually the quality content it produces differentiates it from its competition but it has catch up to do in tech side. Now, Baltz's "The Whole" strategy may be one last stab at getting Microsoft to buy the "whole" Yahoo, but one way or other they have to make a deal that would allay the fears of investors. Yahoo cannot turn around as fast as they have planned since the economy adds a significant challenge to reverse the free fall.
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by Penguinisto January 28, 2009 6:26 AM PST
I sincerely doubt that Microsoft could afford to pull it off these days and retain any credibility. No company who's busy laying off workers and facing marketshare losses will sit there and shell out billions of dollars. Then again, this is Steve Ballmer we're talking about...
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by amardeshbd January 31, 2009 5:21 AM PST
Well said Penguinisto. I totally agree with you :-)
by AppleSuxLeo January 28, 2009 8:13 AM PST
A podcast was just explaining that she says she will "drop-kick" anyone who leaks out secrets.
And debating whether she has had "work done".
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by AppleSuxLeo January 28, 2009 9:15 AM PST
Cage match...Bartz VS Ballmer. Winner takes all.
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by TV James January 28, 2009 5:35 PM PST
Don't kill Launchcast. It's one of three things on the internet worth paying for. (the other being another Yahoo! purchase - Flickr, and then Grand Central - which doesn't charge, but I would gladly pay if it was either that or surrender my number.)
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by amardeshbd January 31, 2009 5:23 AM PST
Yes ! it's sad that they are moving launchcast radio to AOL radio or something like that ! I do love 'My Station'. Let's see what happens after that transition.
by AppleSuxLeo January 29, 2009 1:42 AM PST
It was said she won out over Yang because her "package" was bigger ;)
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