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August 7, 2008 4:01 PM PDT

Vonage struggles to attract new customers

by Marguerite Reardon
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Internet telephony provider Vonage is struggling to attract new customers, as the company is forced to spend less on advertising.

For the second quarter, Vonage reported it had lost $6.9 million, compared with a whopping $23.2 million loss during the same quarter a year ago. The company also increased revenue about 11 percent to $227.5 million.

But the positive gains in the company's financials came at a price. During the quarter, Vonage added only 2,080 new subscribers. A year ago, when the company was still marketing heavily on TV, it added 56,691 during the quarter. In total, Vonage has 2.6 million subscribers as of the end of the second quarter.

On the positive side, the company slightly reduced its churn, or the rate at which people leave its service, to 3 percent from 3.3 percent the previous quarter. This is an important metric as Vonage must hold onto every customer it can.

When it comes to churn, Vonage is near the bottom compared with other service providers, such as wireless operators. It's better than low-cost wireless operator MetroPCS, which had about a 4.5 percent rate of turnover during the second quarter. But it's not even as good as beleaguered wireless operator Sprint Nextel, which had a churn rate of 2 percent during the second quarter. And it's much worse than strong wireless carriers, such as AT&T, which has a churn rate of 1.6 percent and Verizon Wireless, which has a churn rate of 1.1 percent.

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Marc Lefar, the company's newly appointed CEO, said the top priority for the company is to push the churn rate even lower. He told the Journal he is reviewing the company's customer relations operations to see where it needs to improve.

"A 3 percent churn rate is not something we're happy with," he told the Journal.

Marguerite Reardon has been a CNET News reporter since 2004, covering cell phone services, broadband, citywide Wi-Fi, the Net neutrality debate, as well as the ongoing consolidation of the phone companies. E-mail Maggie.
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by javag August 7, 2008 9:29 PM PDT
It's kind of a sad testament to the state of Web 2.0, our latest bubble. What exactly does Vonage provide? My telephone or cable company is responsible for the actual wiring (read: infrastructure). Vonage, on the other hand, is reminds me of various life forms that subsist by sucking the nutrients from an appropriate host. For $30/month, this amounts to just over half of what I pay AT&T for phone service today in an apples to apples comparison. I'm not sure these economics are so compelling, considering how much I spend on other crap. (The $20/month difference is just a cheap dinner out here in Chitown. No big deal.)

I suggest that anyone looking for VOIP solutions look at Vonage's growing list of competitors. I have been trying Phone Power, which is pretty doggone good. Not sure how long I'll stick with them though, because my cable company seems intent on giving them and all other VOIP providers a RUN FOR THEIR MONEY. In any event, you can go m2m with most of these providers, so the sky's the limit.

While you're at it, get a Grand Central phone number so you don't need to worry about "keeping your landline number".

Anyway, let's just hope the consumers win. Got some news for y'all out there (including Marguerite): We're already paying for all this bandwidth. It's about time we can use it however we choose.
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by jef5623 August 7, 2008 11:29 PM PDT
It seems now its inevitable for Vonage to use the tools of the 7th age of computing for Marketing
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by benjaminstraight August 8, 2008 3:02 AM PDT
Yeah what happened to Vonage? It is like they simply disappeared a few years ago.
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by eberit August 8, 2008 5:03 AM PDT
It comes as no surprise that Vonage's growth rate has slowed. Its service cost more and has a lower quality than Packet8.net.
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by gomi3 August 8, 2008 6:34 AM PDT
I was a Vonage customer for 5 years, and left out of disgust for the abysmally low "quality" of its customer service & retention sections. (Is someone actually being paid for "managing" customer service & retention?)
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by jneill69 August 8, 2008 6:46 AM PDT
I used to be a Vonage customer, and when the time came to cancel it they kept charging me and refused to refund it. It got to the point of me having Discover reverse the charges.

I am very happy to see them having trouble - its karma at it's best!
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by doconn7 August 8, 2008 7:01 AM PDT
Vonage is a great service! Those who say different have not had it, it's that simple. No other VoIP company comes close. Over sea's calls for no extra charge and voice quality better than my old wired service at 10% of the cost. I'm on the phone a lot and Vonage is my choice!
YEARS with the service and it just gets better, and no there not paying me!
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by rmarsh01 August 8, 2008 7:19 AM PDT
I could be wrong but the problem i see with vonage is they do not have professional installation. When my parents got VOIP from comcast they came out and wired the house properly.
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by i_am_still_wade August 8, 2008 7:21 AM PDT
Vonage is "good enough". While the call quality is inferior to landline, for regular voice calls, it is more than sufficient. For the money I'm saving, I can put up with a slightly less quality for voice.
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by ittesi259 August 8, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
Your lower voice call quality is more a reflection on your broadband connection than on Vonage.
by patch991 August 8, 2008 7:24 AM PDT
I've had Vonage for at least 5 years now. Initially I had problems with the quality, but that wasn't because of Vonage, it was because of COMCAST. But that's another story! I now have Verizon FIOS (and have for 2 years now!) and haven't had a lick of problems with quality! I don't see how people think Vonage is expensive or that they deliver poor quality phone calls. Check out Comcast's VOIP service ... way expensive in comparison and you have to pay for long distance ... whats up with that?? Verizon's service is more expensive too! I now have Vonage's limited calling service and only pay $14.99 a month before taxes! If you think your quality is poor, maybe it's your ISP ... and no their not paying me either! Two thumbs up for Vonage!
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by sanenazok August 8, 2008 10:21 AM PDT
I don't understand people who use Vonage. I have SkypeIn for my home office. For like $5 a month I get unlimited calling and a VoIP phone number for people to call me from land lines. Why would I pay $30 a month to get the same from Vonage?? Sure I don't get phone # convertibility, but that's not worth $300 per year.
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by euspos August 8, 2008 10:49 AM PDT
Vonage always seem to polarize people.
Me for one have had Vonage service (the $14.99/month) for well over three years. We - wife and I - are VERY (extremely) happy with their service. Even when including overseas calling at $.01/minute and taxes, the monthly bill rarely go north of $20 (about half of what I paid Verizon before for only local service).

I am no fan of Comcast, but in our area Comcast DO provide good "connectivity" and hence provides a reliable backbone for Vonage. Should I ever consider to go Comcast for phone service? Only when their pricing is in line (or better) than Vonage and they have the same neat features (e-mailing voicemails, sending SMS when VM has been received, etc). Also being able to go back (on-line) and look at billing/calls made years ago, does sometimes come in handy (you might be looking for an old number).

And, if you ever switch ISP (going Comcast to FiOS), sticking with Vonage makes it simple. If you dump Comcast, you also dump their (expensive) phone service, and the equipment you have installed.

But, you do need some basic technical skills in order for Vonage to work at its best, and I guess that will always prevent Vonage from being a true mainstream provider. It will never be as simple as POTS, but it will never be as bad or expensive either.

A very strong competitor to vonage is T-mobile's "@home" service. For an additional $10/month, hard to beat as well.

I like Vonage, and those who don't or have had bad expericnes AT LEAST have to give vonage the credit for putting VoIP out in the consumer market place, and dramtically driving down the cost of making calls.
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by Norman Moore August 8, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
I had a really bad experience with Vonage. I had been having a rough go with AT&T regarding my the quality of my DSL service, a neighbor had the speed I wanted from the same local prefix but they wouldn't get me that speed. Then I started having outages and because I work form home I had to bite the bullet and go to Time Warner. I thought that if I did not have DSL anymore why not have Vonage or other VOIP service.

I called Vonage and they pressured me into signing up then and there. I explained that i still needed the telephone service and that my Cable Broadband equipment was still days off to arrive. They assured me that there was no problem that my service would not be affected until I had their portal and called them. Well I started getting cell phone calls asking what was wrong with my landline, guess what? They had already called an order to AT&T and shut of my phone. Fortunately the cable modem got here and I got it working before the DSL died too.

I was very angry and when their crap got here I went through the instructions as I had their online info and it was not clear that I could use my phone and fax together on one line. My room mate doesn't like cell phones so he wanted the phone and I need a fax so I wanted that but not enough to have two lines. So I called them to cancel and first off they wanted $39.00 to return their gear. Then they told me it could be a week to get my phone back. SO I got an RMA but canceled the credit card charge for the return.

Then when I called AT&T to get my phone back they couldn't get the number and Vonage said that they did not have it either. Then I called back to AT&T and found that if i didn't get the same number I'd have to pay for a new install, they give win backs free "install". I then called the California PUC and got a fire under AT&T. They got me back my old number, but the lines had been disconnected in some terminal down the street, so a tech had to come out so I still had to wait a day.

When Vonage got my stuff back they refunded me less the $39.00 the start up fees I paid them.

My advice is stay away from Vonnage and probably VOIP in general. I have heard good things about OOMA though. A reporter for KFI radio here in LA has it and after the recent earthquake here he couldn't get his ISDN, Cell or POTS line to work to call the station but he got through on OOMA and it sounded better than a phone usually does. He now does endorsement commercials for OOMA. But I'm sticking with AT&T because OOMA admits that they don't do faxing well.
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by dragonfly8610 August 8, 2008 6:49 PM PDT
I wouldn't be surprised that Vonage has shot itself in the foot. They offered me a deal to pay for a whole year of service 2 years ago, and I took it. But, after that year was up, with absolutely no warning whatsoever, they raided my bank account for another whole year of service and told me I had agreed to it. Lo and behold, I had....when I found the agreement buried on their website. And when I told them I wanted to revert to monthly pay as I go service, they told me ok, but I would forfeit the year I had just paid and would have to start paying again. And I had no recourse. After this treatment at their hands, when my "contract" is up next May, I will tell them to get lost and switch to the unlimited plan I have available through my cellphone. May Vonage rot in hell for their mistreatment of customers, and I hope the consumer does to them what the patentholders could not.
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by larry3rv September 30, 2008 9:31 PM PDT
I've had vonage for five years. Perfect service! Cut my bellsouth bill in half. I call overseas, usually for free. Highest cost has been 3 cents a minute. For an additional 12 bucks a month, my daughter in South Korea has local phone number on her laptop. She connects free from laptop to any WiFi. We call each other all the time for free, plus she has free calling to anywhere in the US. My total bill for all of this is under 45.00 a month. Sorry some people have had trouble, but I'm perfectly satisfied. Plus, no hidden charges for this, that and the other as with bellsouth.
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by nmonnens August 18, 2009 1:37 PM PDT
I have been a Vonage customer for two months and am very happy with the customer service and call quality. It is not as clear as a landline, but better than Skype (I also use Skype). I moved to Spain and needed to keep my cell number and Skype doesn't allow for that. I first chose Lingo.com and that was terrible. Lingo.com's customer service was horrible and after 3 months they were still unable to transfer over my cell number. Over a three month period I called them weekly (spoke to Lizzy, Angela, Victor, Jed, Karen, Louise, Melanie) to get the status and twice faxed them my info (last 4 of my social, previous ATT bill, and permission to change). They never got it right.

Today when I called to cancel because they were unable to transfer my number, Nicolas said Lingo can't transfer cell numbers and he would charge me $99 to cancel. I was told just the opposite when I signed up. I told him they have no right to charge me the cancellation fee since they were never able to transfer my line. He didn't care.

Vonage transferred over the same number within a week. I have since blocked payment to Lingo. What a scam.
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