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June 16, 2009 3:23 PM PDT

Google considers request to boost privacy

by Elinor Mills

Updated at 4:45 p.m. PST to clarify that Gmail data has always been encrypted by default when a user types in https:// and that last year they offered the ability to set https:// as the default.

More than three dozen security and privacy advocates and researchers are asking Google to offer better data protection for users of Gmail and other Google apps and Google said on Tuesday that it is considering doing that, if it doesn't slow down the apps too much.

You may not know this but you can set Gmail to encrypt your session data by default to protect it from being sniffed over the network. However, Google doesn't offer the ability to encrypt potentially sensitive data created in other Google apps like Docs or Calendar by default, which means the communications could be stolen or snooped on by someone using a packet sniffer on public Internet connections, such as open wireless networks, according to the letter addressed to Google Chief Executive Eric Schmidt and signed by a who's who of 38 experts in the security industry.

Granted, users of other free e-mail services, social networks, and many other sites are vulnerable to data theft and account hijacking, the letter notes. But Google is in a position to set a standard for others to follow, it says.

Google should enable HTTPS (Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure), a technology used by banks and e-commerce sites, by default for Gmail, Docs and Calendar, or at least do more to educate users about the privacy risks and make it easy to turn on the HTTPS by default, the letter urges.

Not only do many people not understand the privacy risks in using unencrypted services, but they don't know that they have the HTTPS default option and finding the settings to change isn't that easy, the letter says. Users can access Gmail, Docs, Calendar and other apps via HTTPS by simply changing the "http://" in the URL address to "https://," but many don't know about that option, either.

"As a market leader in providing cloud services, Google has an opportunity to engage in genuine privacy and security leadership, and to set a standard for the industry," the letter says. "If Google believes that encryption and protection from hackers is a choice that should be left up to users, the company must do a better job of informing them of the risks so that they are equipped to make this choice."

Some of the security experts endorsing the document include Bruce Schneier, chief security technology officer of BT Group; Peter Neumann, principal scientist at SRI International; encryption pioneer Ron Rivest of MIT; Steve Bellovin of Columbia University; Eugene Spafford at Purdue University; and Defcon founder Jeff Moss, who recently joined the Homeland Security Advisory Council.

In response, Alma Whitten, a software engineer on Google's security and privacy teams, wrote in a blog post that Google has been "looking into whether it would make sense to turn on HTTPS as the default for all Gmail users.

"But we want to more completely understand the impact on people's experience, analyze the data, and make sure there are no negative effects," she wrote. "Ideally we'd like this to be on by default for all connections, and we're investigating the trade-offs, since there are some downsides to HTTPS--in some cases it makes certain actions slower."

Google is planning to test the use of HTTPS with "small samples of different types of Gmail users" to see whether it affects the performance of their e-mail, the blog post says.

"Unless there are negative effects on the user experience or it's otherwise impractical, we intend to turn on HTTPS by default more broadly, hopefully for all Gmail users," the post says. "We're also considering how to make this work best for other apps including Google Docs and Google Calendar."

The letter addresses the performance trade-off argument, noting that Google seems to have solved the issue because it provides access to its advertising systems and several other services only via HTTPS sessions.

"Google's engineers have created a low-latency, enjoyable experience for users of Health, Voice, AdWords and AdSense--we are confident that these same skilled engineers can make any necessary tweaks to make Gmail, Docs, and Calendar work equally well in order to enable encryption by default," the letter says.

Elinor Mills covers Internet security and privacy. She joined CNET News in 2005 after working as a foreign correspondent for Reuters in Portugal and writing for The Industry Standard, the IDG News Service, and the Associated Press. E-mail Elinor.
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by zvonr June 16, 2009 4:43 PM PDT
:-) those Ultrasparc T2 CPU-us from sun with built in encryption acceleration don't look as bad anymore...
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by AndrewRich June 16, 2009 5:27 PM PDT
Except that the Google-provided Gmail gadget DOES NOT WORK with https and Google shows no interest in fixing it: http://www.google.com/ig/directory?hl=en&type=gadgets&url=www.google.com/ig/modules/builtin_gmail.xml
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by RobertFHarwood June 17, 2009 7:52 AM PDT
Even better would be to add support for Digital Signature to encrypt the actual mail/docs and to setup the HTTPS connection.
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by allenfalcon June 17, 2009 11:19 AM PDT
Pardon me, but the statement

"Google doesn't offer the ability to encrypt potentially sensitive data created in other Google apps like Docs or Calendar by default"

is incorrect.

Google Apps Premier Edition lets you set HTTPS as the default for Gmail and all of the application services, including docs, spreadsheets, calendar, sites, etc.

If you follow the service activation and setup guides from Google, you are informed of the HTTPS default setting and why your may want to select it for security reasons.

Regards,
Allen Falcon
www.horizoninfoservices.com
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by jessiethe3rd July 15, 2009 5:11 PM PDT
Premier meaning paid service? Oh no - Google is actually a commerical software company now too!? Wow... that's news to me - I thought they only made money off ad revenue? Which is going to be and who the hell is going to trust a company with a model so deeply invested in making money off your data? Not me.
by luke_marsh June 17, 2009 11:43 AM PDT
Priorities.
Although someone's right to a good degree of personal privacy hence personal space is important this needs to be weighed up relative to the more vital need to secure the Power grid Infrastructure of the US and the need to secure the security of money crediting.
If google is to walk this road they need to consider diversification of their work on making such things as encryption technologies efficient relevant to how they might later aid more harder to break set-ups for more support in securing vital areas of the Economy.
For example they might want to consider have a higher degree on security and surveillance of those that might try and snoop in areas of the more valuable information like account details or other reveling areas that could effect the degree of economic trust within the interworking s.
Does it matter to the user if most of it is fast but mildly some aspects are a bit slower if their financial security is better protected from issues of fraud.
For example I think most people would agree that an Email asking about how a friends dog did in his visit to the vet doesn't need to be secured as much as key Data areas of an invoice regarding both personal ownership or personal data on ones money flow.

If say a financial fraud group or attacking group was to attack causing unrest or disrupting the economics would be a target interest not worrying about how george the dog got on in the vet surgery.
Also Google is in a prime position to bring users in on the activity where by the user could ask for some data to be more secure than other more trivial data. This would in turn mean that users were click with hints from business in a way that made them realise Google cared about them which people always like companies that care about them so it would be good for business.

Simply using a basic low encryption sweep may not be as secure for all areas of personal data and would not allow google to move into the security market that well in terms of their diversity of data security abilities but could well be a good place to start as opposed to doing nothing at all.
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by shootfirst June 17, 2009 2:02 PM PDT
First off you are an idiot to be doing anything important using google docs. Even typing messages in gmail while on the web is stupid as at anytime things can crash on your side or theirs. When it is just yours it is easier to mitigate. Go get a copy of openoffice, it works awesome and works on every bleeping OS out there basically. Google has some good apps, but in reality they aren't wise unless you understand the full consequences. You also failed to hit on that Google knows everything you type on these services, they control the encryption keys. Once you go with google you are making them your silent partner and all of your data is now their data, read their agreements closely as after you get through all the legal jargon it states quite cleary that google owns your ass.
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by jessiethe3rd July 15, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
And that my friends is no FUD just truth in the reality - Google is headed to owing your ass.
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