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September 22, 2008 6:33 AM PDT

Microsoft announces $40 billion stock buyback

by Dawn Kawamoto
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Microsoft on Monday announced a new stock buyback program of up to $40 billion, sending its stock up more than 5 percent in premarket trading.

The software giant said it would repurchase up to $40 billion worth of its shares through September 2013. It recently completed a previous $40 billion buyback program.

Investors, who tend to cheer stock buyback programs because it makes existing shares in the market more valuable, pushed Microsoft's stock to $26.50 a share in premarket trading, up 5.33 percent.

Microsoft has seen its shares lose roughly 22 percent of their value since it announced its unsolicited bid for Yahoo earlier this year, which ultimately failed to take hold. And the beating that the broader markets have been taken in the interim also hasn't helped Microsoft's share price.

PC maker Hewlett-Packard also announced a stock buyback program Monday, authorizing up to $8 billion in shares to be repurchased.

The Redmond, Wash.-based company, meanwhile, also announced plans to pay a 13-cent quarterly dividend, which is an 18 percent increase over its previous quarterly dividend. The dividend will be payable on December 11 to shareholders of record as of November 20.

In addition to the stock buyback program and increased quarterly dividend, Microsoft is also planning to float out corporate debt of up to $6 billion. The proceeds from the debt offerings will be used for general corporate purposes, stock repurchases, and working capital.

Dawn Kawamoto covers enterprise security and financial news relating to technology for CNET News. E-mail Dawn.
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by digitalshaman September 22, 2008 7:01 AM PDT
stock buybacks from the proponents of patent reform act - the coalition for patent fairness ("cfp") - wow, that seems really innovative & truly good investment in american ingenuity ... at least the stock prices can remain steady? or is there some other issue we are missing?
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by Renegade Knight September 22, 2008 7:06 AM PDT
Two reasons to buy back stock.
A) Increase the value of remaining stock. Handy to do when you really can't grow, or don't pay dividends (another good use of profits). This version is for the company in the cat seat.
B) Increase the value of the remaining stock to hide an underlying weakness that would cause the stock to slide further down the pit. This version buys you time.
by fredtheviking September 22, 2008 7:24 AM PDT
Well, if you can't buy Yahoo, why just buy yourself? I think it is probably the best thing Microsoft can do. I mean they own thier market and they don't seem to have anything else going for them at the moment. Except for the Xbox 360...
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by mikalg September 22, 2008 8:05 AM PDT
What?I imagine you have little to no idea what you are talking about, otherwise you would not have posted......this. Beyond the glib opening comment, which is the reason you made the post I am sure, nothing else is meaningful to the "story".
by Renegade Knight September 22, 2008 9:22 AM PDT
He's got a fairly good idea on why. What the heck use does a corporation have for money it can't spend? None. They need to return it to shareholders, or grow. They can't do the latter just now, and even where they are growing they don't need the money.
by GuyBlaise September 22, 2008 9:40 AM PDT
Well, maybe in the future, yahoo will accept their bid. As the Hutu of Burundi say, ?If a young woman says no to marriage, just wait until her breasts start to sag.?
<a href="http://guyblaise.com">Guy Blaise</a>
by Penguinisto September 22, 2008 12:26 PM PDT
Actually, the reason why is partially correct - unless you're growing, having a ton of cash laying around doing nothing tends to anger shareholders after awhile.

Also, MSFT was once a pure growth stock - that is, no dividends, but you (the buyer) expected to make your money back from sheer price increase and splits. Since MSFT's stock has been pretty much flat since the dot-bust, the pittance they did add in dividends in 2001 (or so?) makes the stock rather unattractive to buyers who can get a better growth deal elsewhere in tech.

MSFT's buyback/dividend-boost is obviously two-fold, but for two common purposes as well - to draw attention, and to draw money (esp. the second part).

/P
by The_happy_switcher September 22, 2008 8:05 AM PDT
...because nobody else is going to buy this dog.
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by The_Decider September 22, 2008 8:27 AM PDT
MS stock has been stagnant for years and you can bet the farm that Ballmer will find a way to erase that 5% gain.

They blow $300 million on an advertising campaign that succeeds only in showing how clueless and out of touch they are, now they are wasting $40 billion.

This money could go to hiring a competent team to deliver a competent OS. That would get their stock moving and be cheaper as well.

Perhaps the Borg are simply trying to assimilate themselves.
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by Vegaman_Dan September 22, 2008 9:59 AM PDT
Wow, you really are clueless, aren't you? Your comments demonstrate just how ignorant you are of the business world.

Blowing $300 million on a campaign... that is yielding real world results in brand recognition. Your point is... well, pointless. Try again without the bigotry.

Hiring a competent team to deliver a competent OS. Ah, now this may actually explain a lot of your comments here on CNET. Are you upset that you were passed over as not being qualified enough? You must have some reasonable explanation for all your MS hatred. You post on every Apple/Linux/Microsoft story about how horrible MS is regardless of what the story itself is actually about. Your postings come with no evidence, no facts, no supporting information at all, and when asked to provide it, you change the subject. This completely derails any chance you have of being taken seriously and as anything other than a troll.

You've earned the title of Troll quite well. You should wear it proudly.
by Seaspray0 September 22, 2008 10:34 AM PDT
Your email succeeds only in showing how clueless and out of touch you are, now you are wasting my time.
by ralfthedog September 22, 2008 3:08 PM PDT
Re: Mr. Veggie.

"Blowing $300 million on a campaign... that is yielding real world results in brand recognition. "

I agree. That is what Microsoft needed. Before the last round of adds, I had no idea who Microsoft was. I have been to the mall, yet I still have not found their store. I hope I find it soon, I need new footwear

:).
by Kwasiowusu September 22, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
The_Decider : "This money could go to hiring a competent team to deliver a competent OS"

It doesn't cost $40 Billion to develop an OS.
But yeah, I think its stupid to be wasting money on share buy backs. Never believed in it. Its short sighted and the effects never last.
by tenc21 September 22, 2008 5:02 PM PDT
No amount of money however spent (ad campaign or buybacks) could revive MS because its core product is its reason for its failure.
by gp2792 September 22, 2008 5:39 PM PDT
What does stagnant stock mean? one thing and one thing only...the company is meeting the market's expectations. That's all a change in stock price indicates, everything else the same. And for those of you that think buying back stock is a gimmick that doesn't last, think about it. stock price = market cap / # of shares outstanding...if you reduce the # of shares outstanding, what happens to the stock price? That effect will always remain true. What's wrong guys? Didn't "get" fractions?

buying back shares (and raising dividends which they also did) is seen in the market as a way to return value to investors. Holding enormous blocks of cash is actually viewed negatively and is something I have personally held against msft in the past. Sitting on cash is a very poor use of funds in my view. I would much rather see a cash cow like msft return that value in growth, reinvestment in brand or product, or a stock buyback or dividend increase.
by sythara September 22, 2008 8:33 AM PDT
Stock buybacks = higher stock prices. Thats always good for me!
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by The_happy_switcher September 22, 2008 9:20 AM PDT
They've been doing this for 7 years, off and on, and the stock still hasn't budged.
by Penguinisto September 22, 2008 12:33 PM PDT
Sure - but only if you hold 50,000 shares or more. Otherwise it only gives a temporary bump that doesn't give you much more than a nice steak dinner.
by mbenedict September 22, 2008 8:43 AM PDT
Great financial move by Microsoft obviously, given PE in the 13s. $80B in back-to-back stock repurchases shows how much might (and cash) Microsoft has. To put that in perspective, Apple's entire market cap is "only" $120B, with an overinflated PE.
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by Renegade Knight September 22, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
Great? It puts a sign on the wall the MicroSoft has problems. As a fiancial move they are essentialy banking their money in their own stock. They can sell it later to fund something, if they have something to fund. Right now it's a sign they have no growth options, no markets to penetrate, and no way to do anything but remain stagnant.

What they should do is break up and spin themselves off as separate companies to ther shareholders. That will bust the pieces out of stagnant.
by Penguinisto September 22, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
Not so fast - Apple has almost as much (if not more) cash in the bank as MSFT has, right now. AAPL is still punching well above its weight, and has 2-3x the YoY profit (and marketshare) growth, which explains why it has the bigger P/E ratio - no inflation there, hoss.

Meanwhile, one usually doesn't buy back shares unless price growth on those shares are relatively stagnant... which explains MSFT's situation perfectly. MSFT is seeking attention, which explains why they're doing this. Until this morning, MSFT was not an attractive stock at all - stagnant growth, relatively pitiful dividends, and an uninspiring product line-up (much of which carries a negative reputation).
by Kwasiowusu September 22, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
Penguinisto :"- Apple has almost as much (if not more) cash in the bank as MSFT has, right now"

Not so fast yourself.
Exactly how much cash does Apple have in the bank again?
Microsoft still has over $20 Billion in the bank right now, and that is after the first $40 billion stock buy back program.
And, Microsoft is making to the tune of $5 billion in profits per quarter as compard to a measely $1 billion in profits made by Apple per quarter.
Apple is not even on the same planet as Microsoft in profits.
by Kwasiowusu September 22, 2008 3:54 PM PDT
Renegade Knight : " Right now it's a sign they have no growth options"

Microsoft just completed one of its fastest growing years in recent times last fiscal year.
Windows Server, SQL Server , Exchange Server, even Office and desktop Windows are all growng in double disgits right now.
by Penguinisto September 22, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
@Kwasi:

Apple has $20.77bn in cash-on-hand, currently with 38% YoY quarterly revenue growth:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=AAPL

Microsoft has $21.6bn cash-on-hand, currently with 18% YoY quarterly revenue growth:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=MSFT

IOW - my facts are proven, and they stand. Deal. ;)

Finally, consider that MSFT is also about to go into debt - $6bn of debt from the looks of it. Apple has $0.00 in debt.

/P
by The_happy_switcher September 22, 2008 9:30 AM PDT
A higher PE because APple is growing 3-4 times faster than MS.
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by GuyBlaise September 22, 2008 9:45 AM PDT
To fredtheviking,

Well, maybe in the future, yahoo will accept Microsoft's bid. As the Hutu of Burundi say, ?If a young woman says no to marriage, just wait until her breasts start to sag.?
<a href="http://guyblaise.com">Guy Blaise</a>
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by AppleSuxLeo September 22, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
This is good news , as it shows confidence.
They now PWN Mac-punk , AKA Young Steve Jobs AKA Jeepers Creepers Boy with their new I`m a PC ads. Good news all around.
New ads say I design and fly spacecraft with Windows PC`s. Mac ads now look simplistic and childish in comparison. Good counter-move MSFT !
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by The_happy_switcher September 22, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
Do you wear panties when you have your microsoft cheerleader uniform on?
by Vegaman_Dan September 22, 2008 11:47 AM PDT
Applerocks1963 wrote:

"Do you wear panties when you have your microsoft cheerleader uniform on?"

I'm afraid this is not the forum for you to be describing your sexual fetishes. Please keep on topic.
by amanfromMars September 22, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
Buying back stock is a sure sign that no one else is buying ie it is dead duck stock needing a news boost to generate false interest.
One of those smoke and mirrors operations to hide real bad news which is normally always related to abysmal top management performance with no new Intellectual Property available.
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by gp2792 September 22, 2008 5:40 PM PDT
simply untrue
eom
by Ian Kirkland September 22, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
Cynical stock manipulation and hardly worth it any way. The last $40B only got them a small increase. With the world financial system going into a global tailspin, this new $40B may get them very little at all. spend the money on something worthwhile. New programmers maybe? LOL!
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by Penguinisto September 22, 2008 12:34 PM PDT
@mbenedict: Not so fast - Apple has almost as much (if not more) cash in the bank as MSFT has, right now. AAPL is still punching well above its weight, and has 2-3x the YoY profit (and marketshare) growth, which explains why it has the bigger P/E ratio - no inflation there, hoss.

Meanwhile, one usually doesn't buy back shares unless price growth on those shares are relatively stagnant... which explains MSFT's situation perfectly. MSFT is seeking attention, which explains why they're doing this. Until this morning, MSFT was not an attractive stock at all - stagnant growth, relatively pitiful dividends, and an uninspiring product line-up (much of which carries a negative reputation).

In short, they're trying to give their finances a booster shot, but they'll end up dropping their cash reserves to do it (which is a bit risky these days).
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by Vegaman_Dan September 22, 2008 4:57 PM PDT
Apple and Microsoft are not even in the same league as each other. Please compare similar companies. To do anything less than that is irresponsible.

Tesla Motors is not in the same league as Toyota, but look at the sales of Tesla- their sales growth is fantastic compared to Toyota's in the last year. Does this mean that Tesla is more successful than Toyota?

Of course not, only a complete moron would ever fall victim to such logic. I'm rather surprised that you have, and even more so that you're intentionally spreading this misinformation. I had really expected better of you. I am disappointed that you have fallen to the level of Troll. :/
by gp2792 September 22, 2008 5:54 PM PDT
simple analysis

apple microsoft
market cap $1.16B $231.91B
shares 885M 9.13B
share price $131.0734463 $25.40087623
Reverse # of shares $12.70536692 $262.0451977

You really need to compare things fairly. With the number of shares outstanding that Apple has, MS would be valued at $262/share...that reflects the more than double market cap ms has. Apple would be valued at 12.7 bucks a share if they had over 9 billion shares outstanding.

buying back shares returns some of this value to the stock holder, where it belongs. it is a common practice and is not viewed negatively. A company in trouble would never buy back shares with cash as they need that cash for operations. ms is not going down, much to your chagrin.

One other note, "relatively" pitiful dividends???know a lot of tech companies that pay big dividends, do you? Most don't, including your one true love, apple.

"Methinks" you are a larper in your spare time...
by jtjt145 September 22, 2008 3:35 PM PDT
Ballmer always struck me as somebody who would draft a much more convincing figure in one of those Sado-Maso parodies, where the characters are clad in leather straps only, wielding whips in their hands.
That man was never a capable manager, ready to stand on his own feet! He only got in, because he knew 'the man'. Those who were with The Club long enough will know what I am talking about.
Robert Faulkner
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by mbenedict September 22, 2008 3:58 PM PDT
@Penguinisto:

I'd like to have what you're smoking, please. According to Apple's latest SEC 10Q filing (July 11, 2008), Apple's _TOTAL_ assets is just $31B, with $9B in cash.

Companies don't buy back their stock because it's stagnant. They purchase their own stock like they purchase any other stock: because they believe they'll get the best ROI on that purchase than by making any other investment.

Oh, yeah, Apple's stock TANKED today because it was downgraded by analysts including Morgan Stanley. In total Apple's share price is DOWN almost 33% year to date, which means Apple's Year-over-Year growth actually LAGS behind Microsoft.

http://www.247wallst.com/2008/09/coal-in-apples.html

Quote: "Apple is about to have the worst October through December sales period in five years."

Over hyped. Over inflated.
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by Vegaman_Dan September 22, 2008 5:05 PM PDT
Don't bother arguing with Penguinisto. Just use the search bar for his name and you can quickly see that his reputation for honesty is as creative as the stories he tells. It is entertaining though, like most fiction.
by Penguinisto September 22, 2008 4:30 PM PDT
@mbenedict: See for yourself:

Apple has $20.77bn, currently with 38% YoY quarterly revenue growth:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=AAPL

Microsoft has $21.6bn, currently with 18% YoY quarterly revenue growth:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=MSFT

We're talking generic cash in the bank here (hint: look for "cash and short term investments", not just "cash", since short-term investments can be liquidated on little-to-no-notice, and are often lumped in with most summaries).

Now if you insist on being disingenuous and silly, then let's play your game and ditch the short-term investments:

AAPL: $9.3bn in "Cash": http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/incomeStatement?stmtType=BAL&symbol=AAPL.O
MSFT: $10.3bn in "Cash": http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/incomeStatement?stmtType=BAL&symbol=MSFT.O

...seems my point still stands just fine:
Apple has almost as much (if not more) cash in the bank as MSFT has, right now.

Oh, and your cute little cite? Piper says that the Morgan Stanley analysts are idiots:
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/9/piper-ups-apple-aapl-estimates-morgan-stanley-whacks-big-tech-citi-warns-on-forex

Fortune says they're stupid too:
http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/09/22/analyst-apple-will-sell-5-million-iphones-in-q4/

Time to snag some bargains, methinks. ;)

/P
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by Vegaman_Dan September 22, 2008 4:55 PM PDT
To really compare accurately, you will need to equalize their sizes. As Apple is in a niche market, their growth is going to be larger than the much larger MS. This is basic common sense. Now once Apple has the same total revenue as MS, *then* you can compare the two. But doing so with the figures you list is simply deceptive and ignorant.

I sold some art recently. I ended up selling two pieces in two weeks and that is twice as much as I had the previous week. By your very logic, I am much more successful than Apple and MS combined. That puts me on top of all corporate sales of all products.

Obviously this isn't the case, but it clearly demonstrates why your logic is flawed. It's a common Apple Apologist trick to spread FUD. I really had expected better of you. You normally aren't the sort of person to fall for such deceptions.
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