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December 13, 2008 12:07 PM PST

More speculation on Yahoo's CEO choices

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Speculation about the choice for the new Yahoo CEO search continues in the wake of the layoffs Yahoo announced last week. And Kara Swisher continues her search for Jerry Yang's replacement, gathering picks from the raft of ex-Yahoo employees in her blog post today.

Some respondents said that a media mogul, such as Disney's Bob Iger or News Corp.'s Peter Chernin, is the right medicine for Yahoo. Former COO Dan Rosensweig comes up in the context of someone who could hit the ground running and has a product focus, as well as former Yahoo execs Jeff Weiner and Jeff Mallet. Others who surfaced were Yahoo board members, Vodafone's Arun Sarin, Microsoft and Google execs, and even Steve Jobs (Apple would buy Yahoo).

The Yahoo board clearly has many choices. The best pick will be someone who, like Jerry Yang, can bleed purple in terms of motivating the 10,000-plus employees, but also can unleash the potential of the products and services, and right-size the business. With leading news, finance, and communications services, and even profits, Yahoo is bent but not broken.

November 20, 2008 5:27 PM PST

EIC Squared: Yahoo's new CEO, BlackBerry Storm and cheap gadgets

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(Editor's note: Due to production issues, some readers may not be able to access this podcast. We hope to have the problem resolved soon. Please check back to hear the podcast.)

On this week's EIC Squared podcast, ZDNet's Larry Dignan and I discuss Yahoo's new CEO vacancy and the newly launched BlackBerry Storm. We also talk about the grim economic outlook for the holiday shopping season, which will be great for bargain hunters online and offline.

November 19, 2008 8:20 PM PST

Filling Yahoo's CEO vacancy

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Prior to a Churchill Club event, I chatted with Kara Swisher about who she believes will succeed the deposed Jerry Yang as Yahoo CEO. From her BoomTown perch at All Things Digital Kara has been all over the story. She thinks that News Corp. Chief Operating Officer Peter Chernin could be the man. Chernin has spent the last 12 years by the side of Rupert Murdoch and may be leaving his embrace. Kara also evaluates a number of other possible candidates in the video below and in this blog post.

Whoever takes the job will have to be capable of spiritually healing a wounded company. Too many talented people have left the tent, and he or she will need to attract and bring in first class replacements. Om Malik phrases what Yahoo needs in a CEO simply: "Look outside for someone with spark." Add to that criteria the ability to be decisive in short order and keep the Yahoo board from further compromising the future of company. Jerry Yang may be a co-founder and now former-CEO, but the board, which has been recently reconstituted with some fresh blood, has been pulling his strings.

November 12, 2008 2:03 PM PST

EIC Squared: Retail woes, Obama's CTO, and Microsoft's search future

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On this week's EIC Squared podcast, ZDNet's Larry Dignan and I talk about the tanking economy, the challenges facing an Obama administration CTO, and Microsoft's search quests with Verizon Wireless and Yahoo.

The holiday shopping season is looking grim as Circuit City files for bankruptcy and Best Buy lowers its forecast for its fiscal year. When will it ever end?

President-elect Obama has called for a national CTO. Given the complexity of technology infrastructure, the abundance of projects, the squeeze on budgets, and policy controversies, this will be an extremely challenging position.

We also discuss Microsoft's next moves to increase its share of the search market, with Verizon Wireless or Yahoo, or both.

November 6, 2008 10:52 AM PST

Yahoo's Jerry Yang runs into a wall

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The reviews of Jerry Yang's performance at the Web 2.0 Summit have not been glowing. The Yahoo CEO's interview with Web 2.0 Summit co-host John Battelle this week has been described as a train wreck, self-delusional, and as making a mockery of the vaunted company he helped create.

Jerry Yang and John Battelle at the Web 2.0 Summit

(Credit: Dan Farber/CNET Networks)

During the interview, Yang defined Yahoo's vision as a "consumer brand that allows people to get what they want on the Internet." Yahoo is a destination site with starting points, such as Yahoo Finance and the Yahoo home page, and is rewiring its platform to be more open and extensible. It serves billions of dollars in ads and is the No. 2 search engine. It's a sound strategy. Yahoo is not Google or Microsoft and has to double-down on its core assets and 500 million to 600 million users.

Yang's job is to sell that vision inside and especially outside of Yahoo. The problem is Yang can't sell.

He lacks the out-sized personality and charisma that is needed to inspire confidence in battles for the soul of a company. He said he would "go through walls" for Yahoo, but having personal passion and a vision isn't enough to get others to walk through the walls.

He has to convince employees, shareholders, customers, and partners that no matter how difficult the situation, he can lead Yahoo to the promised land. Think reality-distortion field Steve Jobs, no-software Marc Benioff, dancing bear Steve Ballmer, the disarming Howard Stringer, the professorial Eric Schmidt, or the preacher John Chambers. Bill Gates doesn't have the most charismatic or endearing personality, but he manages to control interviews, delivering the messages he wants.

TechCrunch's Mike Arrington wrote that Yahoo needs its Barack Obama, "someone to make everyone believe that a true leader is at the helm, ready to fight. Someone with a believable plan. Someone who can inspire Yahoo--and Yahoo users--to believe that Yahoo can once again become a force on the Internet."

Yang is ready and willing to fight, but the Chief Yahoo needs a new general to lead his troops.

Watch the full video, courtesy of TechWeb:


October 24, 2008 3:08 PM PDT

EIC Squared: Recessionary tactics

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In this week's EIC Squared podcast, ZDNet's Larry Dignan and I discuss the flailing economy. The CFOs explaining the financial results on tech company earnings calls echoed the sentiments and uncertainty of every other company and industry. As Microsoft CFO Chris Liddell stated:

We're not economic forecasters, and there is a high degree of uncertainty in outlook based on the state of the economy. As a result we've adjusted our guidance approach as follows. At the top end we're assuming a mild recession, and a relatively modest growth rate for all IT-based products. While at the bottom end we're assuming a deeper recession in the economy and end-season lower growth for IT.

Even Apple's Steve Jobs had something to say about the economy: "Your next-door neighbor can likely predict what is going to happen as accurately as we can."

We also preview what's coming next week at the Microsoft Professional Developers Conference in Los Angeles next week.

September 15, 2008 6:15 AM PDT

Inside Yahoo's social network

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In January at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Yahoo CEO and co-founder Jerry Yang offered a sneak peek at Yahoo's next-generation, socially networked user experience. In a Flash-based demo, Yang showed how Yahoo was opening up its platform to third-party developers and building hooks to socialize the experience for the more than 500 million users of its various services.

Third-party applications can be accessed via the Yahoo Mail interface, as well as services recommended by friends. My Conversations is a way for Yahoo Mail to digest conversation threads and initiate actions, such as planning a dinner with a group of contacts. You can drag an e-mail thread into a map and profiles of those on the e-mail are surfaced, noting preferences (food in this instance), and suggesting and locating restaurants in the area.

(Credit: Yahoo)

In this screen from the January 2008 CES demo, Yahoo Mail shows messages from a user's most important connections as well as their status updates.

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But that demo of socially enriched Yahoo services is still incubating, and the company has not been successful in becoming a social-networking hub. Yahoo 360, introduced in 2005 , never took off. A more hip version, Mash, was recently shuttered after less than a year. In the meantime, Facebook, which Yahoo tried to acquire for a rumored $1 billion in 2006, has accumulated more than 100 million users in four years.

But Yahoo executives claim they are not focused on challenging Facebook or MySpace. They are seeking to add a social dimension to the Yahoo platform by intuiting a social graph and profile page for each user and opening up APIs that allow developers to access the profile data.

Ash Patel, executive vice president of Yahoo's Audience Product Division

(Credit: Dan Farber/CNET News)

"We are really not interested in creating a social destination site," said Ash Patel, executive vice president of Yahoo's Audience Product Division. "That ship has sailed, between MySpace and Facebook and Hi5 and Bebo and other reasons. Even with that, there are 1.2 billion people on the Internet, and only 150 million are using social networks. That's a lot of greenfield."

"Look at the hundreds of millions of people using Yahoo," Patel continued. "Many of them don't care to go to a social-networking site to build their profile. For them, we want to add the right amount of social to give them social relevance but not to duplicate Facebook or MySpace. They don't want all features."

"Yahoo has done well with taking a lot of user experiences that have taken off and doing them well so they appeal to the masses. For example, we did that with RSS. People don't know what it is but we put it into MyYahoo and got wide adoption. We can put the right bits of social that matter and put them into products in the right way," Patel added.

At the recent Yahoo Open Hack Day about 300 developers got access to new "social" APIs, which open up user address book contacts, profile data, notifications, and the "vitality stream" (like Facebook's news feed) to external applications, which can be added to services such as Yahoo Mail and the Yahoo front page.

"We are taking existing products and services, making them richer, and enabling social elements for the audience, and potentially leading the way for new applications," Chief Yahoo and co-founder David Filo explained during an interview last week.

Yahoo is focused on Mail--which has 275 million monthly users, according to Patel--as the core application to wire up with the social APIs. "People have their top 10 to 20 friends they care about. We have to take the latent social stuff, such as the address book with tens of billions of connections, and instant messaging, and buddy lists, and find the top 10 to 20 people who matter to a person," Patel said. Yahoo is developing a new profile page; Yahoo 360 profiles will be migrated to the new profile pages, and those users will have the option of moving their Yahoo 360 blogs to other blog platforms, such as WordPress and TypePad.

During a meeting with the press last week, Patel showed how Netflix, Flickr, and Evite could be integrated into Yahoo Mail. For example, an e-mail from a Netflix user about returning a movie could be turned into an interactive experience. Using the Yahoo Mail developer platform, Netflix can be added as an application in Yahoo Mail. A new tab appears and the application shows a list of movies that friends from within the Yahoo address book, who are also Netflix customers, have watched. Yahoo Instant Messaging is also integrated with the Mail and Netflix experience.

Applications such as Netflix could be integrated into Yahoo Mail.

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Patel also showed Netflix integrated into the Yahoo front page and integrated into Yahoo search. "In Yahoo Search, you can see the general Web critics view of the movie and the Netflix ratings, and you can add it to your Netflix queue. Instead of a bunch of searches, you can actually get something done there," he said.

Patel didn't give a precise timetable for introducing the new profile page or the social graph of the top 10 to 20 contacts based on address book and buddy list contacts and their "vitality" stream.

"The profile page is a cornerstone. It's a necessity but not a destination as on Facebook or MySpace. Yahoo 360 was a way to create a new profile with social networking. We didn't get it right. We need the basic profile for users just to manage their identity so when they participate in other parts of Yahoo they have options to see," Patel said. "We will go out in steps, with the first rollout of profiles in beta later this year."

Yahoo executives wouldn't say when the user experience demoed at CES would be available, but made it clear that scaling the new functionality for more than 500 million users was a major technical and user interface challenge. Venkat Panchapakesan, head of Yahoo's Audience Technology Group, noted the three top challenges for getting Yahoo's social to scale: the complexity of mobile and making applications work fast for Yahoo Mail; data privacy, such as dealing with notions of user control at the same time data is broadcast; and converting all profiles to a single name space and lighting up the social graph.

Yahoo is heading in the right direction with its newly found openness and social rewiring, although it should have started this undertaking a few years ago. Now it's a matter of executing on the plan, which hasn't been made easier by the exodus of talent from the company in recent months, and getting developers and hundreds of millions of users to buy into the plan.

August 26, 2008 2:27 PM PDT

Daily Debrief: Yahoo's winding road

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On Tuesday's edition of Daily Debrief, our Microsoft-Yahoo watcher Dawn Kawamoto talks with me about what has happened since Yahoo's well-documented August 1 shareholder meeting. Yahoo's stock price is nearing a 52-week low this week, but the herd of press and analysts covering the company are either on summer vacation or allowing Jerry Yang and his somewhat new board of directors a respite from their attention. Like other public companies, Yahoo lives by the financial quarter, so the watchers will be hovering as the quarter ends in September, speculating on how Yang and company perform now that the boardroom melodrama has abated.

July 25, 2008 1:26 PM PDT

EIC Squared: Microsoft's plans, Icahn's seat, Facebook Connect and more

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On this week's EIC Squared podcast, ZDNet Editor in Chief Larry Dignan and I discuss the news of the week. It was a big week for Microsoft, with several announcements and teases from its meeting in Seattle with financial analysts. Steve Ballmer is still bullish on the online space, but not on Yahoo. We also talk about Kevin Johnson's departure from Microsoft. (See coverage on the Microsoft financial analyst meeting from Ina Fried and Mary Jo Foley.)

We spend a few minutes debating the impact of Carl Icahn joining the Yahoo board and what it means for Jerry Yang's future. Larry thinks that Yang bought himself more time to turn things around. If so, he will need to speed up delivery on the Yahoo Open Strategy and build a social layer into Yahoo's collection of services.

Finally, we discuss the impact of Facebook Connect, which will let users access and feed their Facebook profiles and friends on any Web site. It's Facebook's way of extending its platform to embrace other services and get more data and pages flowing through its social portal.

July 21, 2008 10:19 AM PDT

Carl Icahn blinks, takes Yahoo board seat

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Carl Icahn has apparently decided that his 4.98 percent stake in Yahoo common stock is safe in the hands of Yahoo's current eight-member board, which has fought him for control of the company over the last several months. Yahoo co-founder and CEO Jerry Yang lives to fight another day.

Icahn and two other board nominees of his choice will round out the board, keeping current Chairman Roy Bostock and Yang in place. Icahn had proposed a complete board replacement, with Lucian A. Bebchuk, Frank J. Biondi Jr., John H. Chapple, Mark Cuban, Adam Dell, Keith A. Meister, Edward H. Meyer, and Brian S. Posner as his candidates. He has also called for Yang's ouster.

The contentious Mr. Icahn said in a statement:

"I am very pleased that this settlement will allow me to work in partnership with Yahoo's board and management team to help the company achieve its full potential. While I continue to believe that the sale of the whole company or the sale of its search business in the right transaction must be given full consideration, I share the view that Yahoo's valuable collection of assets positions it well to continue expanding its online leadership and enhancing returns to stockholders. I believe this is a good outcome and that we will have a strong working relationship going forward. Additionally, I am happy that the board has agreed in the settlement agreement that any meaningful transaction, including the strategy in dealing with that transaction, will be fully discussed with the entire board before any final decision is made."

If Icahn was so adamant about ousting Yang from the CEO spot and doing a deal with Microsoft, what softened his stance? Following are a few suggestions:

  • Icahn was getting signals that other major shareholders, such as Legg Mason, would support Yahoo's board in the August 1 shareholder meeting.

  • Icahn came to the conclusion that a continued beating up on Yang and Yahoo was not a winning strategy for making money on his shares.

  • The Icahn and Microsoft relationship has cooled.

  • Icahn and Yahoo's board agreed about how to deal with Microsoft's on and off offers for all or part of the company.

  • Icahn had a spiritual awakening and no longer wants to be antagonistic.

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