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August 5, 2008 4:00 AM PDT

Microsoft taking a sip of Midori

by Ina Fried
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Yes, Microsoft is pursuing a different type of operating system, which goes by the name of Midori. And, no, it's not the next version of Windows.

The Midori subject has gotten a great deal of attention in recent days, with the fires only fanned by the fact that Microsoft has refused to say anything about Midori beyond confirming that it is an "incubation project" within the company. ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley noted its existence in her Microsoft 2.0 book, while more recently SDTimes posted a bunch of details on Midori based on internal documents.

From there, there has been plenty of speculation about what Midori is and isn't.

Microsoft's Eric Rudder

Eric Rudder, Microsoft's executive vice president for technical strategy, is heading up the Midori effort.

(Credit: Microsoft)

Here's what I've been able to confirm:

Midori is related to Singularity, a research project that dates back to 2003 and is basically a look at how one might architect an operating system from the ground up, given what we know now about computing and where things are headed in terms of parallelism and cloud computing. Longtime Microsoft engineer Eric Rudder is the one leading up the Midori effort.

Whereas Singularity was a research effort firmly confined to a small team of researchers inside Microsoft's in-house labs, Midori is an effort to see if there is something commercially viable that could come out of it, though it could be years off and come in pieces if it comes at all.

The one public mention I found to Midori was within a research paper on a bug-finding program called Chess. On one PowerPoint slide, it mentions a list of "current Chess applications" of which one bullet point is "Singularity/Midori (OS in managed code)."

That syncs with the SDTimes report, which talks about Midori as an OS for the age in which computing resources can be either local or in the Internet cloud and in which processing tasks can be split among multiple processors and multiple machines.

It's worth noting that Microsoft often has incubation projects that seek to explore whether an all-new approach to a product might be justified. That said, up to this point, every update to Office and Windows has been some type of incremental improvement, not a ground-up rewrite.

Back in 2000, the company had an effort called NetDocs that many thought might replace Office with an online productivity suite. Eight years--and at least three Office versions later--people are still wondering when we will see such a product from Redmond.

That suggests to me that the arrival of Midori or some similar approach as a Windows successor is something that is a long way off, if it ever happens.

Microsoft has struggled to change even single subsystems of the Windows operating system, such as the file system. Microsoft has had both Cairo and WinFS projects, ultimately opting instead to stick with trying to build on top of what is already there.

The fact, though, that Microsoft is thinking about new ways it might do an operating system should not come as a surprise. I'd be surprised if they weren't exploring that idea.

What will be more interesting is if Microsoft actually does release something all-new. With its much smaller and mostly consumer base, Apple has shown several times a willingness to sacrifice compatibility in order to take the Mac in a new direction--most notably the shifts from 68000 processors to PowerPC, from OS 9 to OS X and from PowerPC to Intel chips. Microsoft, though, with its huge base of business and consumer users, has long favored compatibility over new capabilities and approaches.

The question is how long this approach can continue. I (and others) have been asking for some time whether Windows hasn't gotten too difficult to update. Take Longhorn/Vista. After a few years of work, Microsoft decided the major architectural changes it was planning were too drastic. It went back to the drawing board, but even the more modest changes it made with Vista have come under attack.

I wonder if, in this day and age, it wouldn't be possible for Microsoft to emulate all of Windows, while moving forward with a more modern software approach, sort of like Apple did with the "classic" mode in OS X. I have no idea if that's anywhere in the cards or not.

But if anyone wants to share some more Midori--I'm up for another round.


March 11, 2008 5:15 PM PDT

TechFest catch-up

by Ina Fried
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There was plenty of TechFest coverage last week, but we have a couple more bits to add to the mix.

Up now are several videos from last week, including highlights of a walk-around I did with Craig Mundie, Microsoft's chief research and strategy officer.

Mundie video

Click here for the Craig Mundie video.

There was a lot last week--from Micropedia, to the much-touted WorldWide Telescope to a new operating system called Singularity. To make it easier to find it all, check out this roundup of all our print and video coverage.

Also worth checking out is a video that colleague Kara Tsuboi did looking at some image-editing software that Microsoft had on display. While most software looks to edit things out of photos, Microsoft Research was showing off a program that adds things back in.

The idea is that these days, we all shoot a lot of pretty landscapes with little action going on. The program from Microsoft lets you throw in some stock images of cars and people and pets. Ideally, of course, you would be able to add-in your own images, but that will have to wait for an updated release.

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During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft.


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