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Although Microsoft and Yahoo have only just inked their final search deal and still need regulatory approval, Microsoft's Yusuf Mehdi talked on Tuesday about the economics that the deal will bring.

Speaking at a Credit Suisse technology investor conference in Arizona, Mehdi said that both Microsoft and Yahoo should see a double-digit increase in revenue per search, once the two companies have a single paid search system.

Putting their two separate paid search systems together will take longer than just setting up Yahoo to use Bing's algorithmic search.

"That is going to take some time," Mehdi said in the speech, which was Webcast on Microsoft's investor site. Just closing the deal has taken quite awhile. There was the months of talks of an outright acquisition, then the eventual search deal announced in July, and then several more months spent ironing out the final details.

Now Microsoft is waiting on regulatory approval on the deal, but Mehdi said he remains optimistic that it will get the nods it needs in time to close the deal early next calendar year.

The integration is also going to be expensive Mehdi acknowledged, reiterating a past estimate that Microsoft will spend $100 million to $200 million in transition costs during the first year. Mehdi said the company has not said how much it expects to spend in the second year, but said that after that, the deal should be a boon to Microsoft's financial results.

As for Bing, Mehdi said executives are pleased with the results for its first six months, citing ComScore U.S. search query market share figures that show Microsoft growing from 8.4 percent to 9.9 percent over that period. That said, Mehdi acknowledged that "we have a very long ways to go against a tough competitor."

Several Microsoft executives will be in San Francisco on Wednesday to talk about some new moves in search, including some developments in mobile and mapping. Google, meanwhile, is planning a search event of its own on Monday.

Why would anything between Microsoft and Yahoo go quickly?

After months of awkward teenage romance, the two companies finally announced that they had reached a deal in July.

However, the two sides are apparently still working out the terms of what they agreed to in the "binding letter agreement" reached in July. In a regulatory filing on Wednesday, Yahoo said it and Microsoft need more time to iron out a definitive accord.

"The Letter Agreement specified that the parties would execute definitive agreements by October 27, 2009, but given the complex nature of the transaction, there remain some details to be finalized," Yahoo said in a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

They have time, as regulators are still pouring over the deal.

In a statement, Microsoft said the two companies remain committed to their arrangement.

"Given the complex nature of this transaction, there remain some issues that need some additional clarity and definitive details," a Microsoft representative said in a statement. "So the teams at Yahoo and Microsoft are continuing to work on the remaining details, and we have mutually agreed to extend the period to negotiate and execute the agreement."

Microsoft said "both companies are optimistic that we will be able to close this deal by early 2010."

Microsoft's top lawyer said that a tentative agreement with Brussels announced earlier Wednesday could potentially allow the software maker to move out of the regulatory crosshairs, perhaps paving the way for regulators to shift their attention elsewhere.

"It's important for us to get closure in Europe on issues that have obviously been controversial for over a decade," General Counsel Brad Smith said in an interview. "Today's decision takes us an important step closer to doing that."

Microsoft initially took a much different approach to the European Commission's assertion that the inclusion of a browser in Windows violated antitrust law. The company had initially proposed just stripping out the browser from Windows 7 entirely, leaving users the prospect of trying to get a browser on their own. The software maker eventually backed down after indications that that approach was unlikely to fly.

While not final, Microsoft's moves would appear to resolve all of its outstanding regulatory issues with the Commission and were greeted warmly by regulators on Wednesday.

Although most of the early attention focused on the agreement around a browser "ballot screen," Microsoft also announced on Wednesday an agreement around product interoperability. Under that deal, a 10-year commitment by Microsoft, the software maker agrees to publish communication protocols and adopt certain standards as part of Windows, Windows Server, Office and other high market share products. Companies could also purchase for 5,000 euros a warranty that would subject Microsoft to court oversight and monetary penalties if it doesn't live up to its commitments.

Smith said that the approach Microsoft took with regard to interoperability was designed to adopt methods that Nellie Kroes, commissioner for competition, had outlined in a speech last year for how companies with high market share products should behave.

"I actually think this in effect implements the model that the Commission has been advocating," Smith said. Moreover, he said it is a model that other software companies should pay attention to, he said, noting that there are lots of companies that have high market share. He noted that Google has 78 percent of the paid search market and IBM has 100 percent of the mainframe market, while Adobe also has dominant positions in certain areas, such as Photoshop.

"It is important we believe to create a level legal and regulatory playing field," Smith said. "Everyone that has a high market share needs to respect the same set of rules. I think a number of these rules are likely to be applicable to other companies and other products."

Settling now with Brussels also could help Microsoft in its effort to win approval for its search deal with Yahoo, Smith said.

"This certainly isn't going to hurt when it comes to the Yahoo-Microsoft agreement," he said. "It's not necessarily going to make a huge difference. We didn't feel a particular step was needed to help it along."

Microsoft is in the process of trying to ascertain whether the deal needs approval from Brussels or from individual European antitrust authorities. It also needs approval from U.S. regulators, who have asked for more information on the deal.

Representatives from Microsoft and Yahoo have filed paperwork for regulatory clearance in the U.S. for their proposed search deal but it remains unclear how to proceed in Europe, a Microsoft spokesman said on Wednesday.

The issue that remains in Europe is "determining whether or not the deal requires formal notice before the (European) Commission and if not, do we need to file notice" in individual countries that might have an interest in reviewing the deal, said Microsoft spokesman Jack Evans.

These jurisdictional issues are being discussed in ongoing talks Microsoft and Yahoo have been having with EC officials that were the subject of a Reuters report, according to Evans.

"We have had informal discussions in Europe about the agreement just as we indicated we would when the deal was announced," he said.

Yahoo representatives familiar with the matter did not immediately respond to an e-mail seeking comment.

Last week, the companies said the U.S. Department of Justice had asked for more information about their deal under which Microsoft would provide search for Yahoo's Web pages, thus bringing to a close Yahoo's tenure as a search provider.

The antitrust scrutiny is likely to be more intense in the U.S., where Google has about three quarters of the search market and Microsoft and Yahoo combined have about one fifth, than in Europe where Google's market share exceeds 90 percent.

Update 3:25 p.m. PDT: In a statement, a Yahoo spokesperson said "As we indicated at the time of announcement, the agreement is subject to regulatory approval and Yahoo and Microsoft are engaging in discussions with the regulators in Europe about the agreement. Yahoo and Microsoft are committed to engaging positively with the Commission about the agreement and firmly believe that the information we will be providing will confirm that this deal is not only good for both companies, but it is also good for advertisers, good for publishers, and good for consumers. As we have indicated previously, we're hopeful the agreement will close in early 2010."

Microsoft's new Bing search service is the fastest-growing U.S. search engine among the top 10, according to a Nielsen report released Monday.

The total amount of searches on Bing rang in at 1.1 billion for the month of August, a leap of 22.1 percent over July, winning Microsoft a 10.7 percent share of the search engine market.

Google remained in the top spot with a commanding 64.6 percent share, accounting for 7 billion searches in August, a gain of 2.6 percent over July. Yahoo saw its search results drop 4.2 percent for the month to 1.7 billion, earning it 16 percent of the market.

Other players in the top 10 included AOL Search in fourth place with 333 million searches and Ask.com Search in fifth with 186 million searches.

Similar studies have also seen a boost in Microsoft's search business. An August report from ComScore discovered that Microsoft's share of the global search engine market lept 41 percent from July 2008 to July 2009. Bing was introduced in May, taking the place of Microsoft's Live Search.

Earlier this week, Microsoft showed off a "visual search" feature for Bing that returns thumbnail images for at least some search results. Microsoft reportedly will be debuting a Bing 2.0 sometime soon sporting a variety of new features.

The U.S. Department of Justice has furthered its investigation into the proposed search engine deal between Microsoft and Yahoo by asking both companies to provide more information.

The two companies received an additional request for information earlier this week as expected, Microsoft spokesman Jack Evans told CNET News. He said he couldn't reveal the specifics of the request, citing it as a confidential inquiry from the Justice Department. But he said Microsoft is in the process of providing the requested information.

Yahoo spokesman Adam Grossberg also confirmed to CNET News the Justice Department's request. He couldn't comment on the specifics either but added that Yahoo is cooperating fully.

"We confidently believe the information we'll provide will confirm that the deal is not only good for Yahoo and Microsoft, but also good for advertisers, publishers, and, ultimately, consumers," said Grossberg.

The request for additional information doesn't come as a surprise to either Microsoft or Yahoo.

Under the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act, mergers or other business deals that meet certain requirements must be reviewed by the government before they can close. Companies have to file the necessary paperwork with the government and then wait 30 days before given clearance to move forward. In some cases, the government requests additional information before making a decision.

Both Microsoft and Yahoo were anticipating a close review of the deal given its scope, said Evans. At a press conference when the deal was announced, the companies said the review would be a matter of months, not weeks, taking it through the fall.

Despite the Justice Department's request for more details, both Microsoft and Yahoo are hopeful the deal will close as expected in early 2010.

Still, the Justice Department is only one battle. The agreement may also require regulatory clearance by the European Commission, which has been tough in its current probe of Oracle-Sun and in past probes of both Intel and Microsoft. Microsoft is currently trying to determine what formal notification, if any, needs to occur in Europe.

But a Microsoft-Yahoo search combination may be seen as less of a competitive threat in Europe where Google enjoys a 90 percent share of the search engine market versus its U.S. share, which ranges anywhere from 63 percent to 72 percent based on recent estimates.

Yahoo and Microsoft announced the deal in July, under which Bing's search engine technology would power Yahoo Search, and Yahoo would sell ad space next to search results, with the two companies splitting the sales.

It'll probably still be a long time before people start saying things like "I'd spend some time binging that guy before I go on a date with him," but in the U.S. things are looking up for Microsoft's new search engine, Bing, which was unveiled in May.

Web analytics firm StatCounter released analysis Monday stating that Bing slightly increased Microsoft's share of the U.S. search market in July. It now claims 9.41 percent, up from 8.23 percent in June.

The combined market share of both Microsoft and Yahoo in July was 20.36 percent, up slightly from 19.27 percent in June. The commanding lead Google currently has on the market shrank slightly to 77.54 percent in July from 78.48 percent in June.

Microsoft and Yahoo reached a deal last week, with Microsoft powering Yahoo search while Yahoo becomes the exclusive worldwide relationship sales force for both companies' premium search advertisers.

And according to StatCounter analysis, worldwide is the place where the two companies face an even bigger challenge in the search market. In July, Microsoft and Yahoo combined had just 8.77 percent of the global search market, down from 8.45 percent in June. On the other hand, Google still dominates the search market globally with 89.23 percent in July (slightly down from 89.8 percent in June).

StatCounter's data was based on an analysis of 1 billion search engine referring clicks (of which 258 million were from the U.S.) that were collected in June and July from the company's network of more than 3 million Web sites.

REDMOND, Wash.--In the wake of Microsoft's search deal with Yahoo, online chief Qi Lu outlined why the business is so important to Microsoft and how the company hopes to make headway.

For one thing, he promised the crowd of financial analysts, it can be a huge money maker.

"When you are at scale it can be a hugely profitable business," Lu said.

The problem is that many of the costs are the same even if you are not operating at scale, which is the place Microsoft has found itself. "Even if you have one user you have to crawl the whole Web."

But the challenge goes further, he said, noting that smaller players, by their nature, have fewer ads to show, meaning those ads are less relevant and the search experience is not only less profitable, but less desirable for users.

The Yahoo deal will help Microsoft in the scale arena. Combined, the two companies would have more than triple the search share that Microsoft has on its own. That said, the combined entity still has less than half of Google's share.

"With larger scales there are several important advantages," Lu said. "There is an almost immediate lift in the quality of user experience."

For example, suggested searches are based on a fairly simple algorithm, but one that gets much better the more queries a search provider sees.

But, even beyond the scale issues, Lu acknowledged that Microsoft also faces a brand challenge. He said that studies show that given a choice between Google's brand with another provider's results and Google's results with another provider's brand--users will choose the Google name, which has become synonymous with search.

"People will prefer the Google brand because of the strength it has," said Lu, who joined Microsoft from Yahoo at the end of last year.

Answering those challenges won't happen overnight, he said.

"We want to be brutally honest about where we are," he said. "It's going to take time."

Microsoft relaunched its search engine as Bing in June and has seen a slight bump in market share, though it remains to be seen whether it can hold onto and build on that initial interest.

"Overall the early feedback from the market has been encouraging," Lu said. "It's a good step, but it's the first step in a long, long journey."

After months of Microhoo maneuvering, the two companies sign the dotted line on a deal that puts Yahoo search in Microsoft's hands.

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