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Firefox, the open-source challenger to market heavyweight Internet Explorer, has surpassed 10 million downloads in a little more than a month since the browser was released in November.

The free Web browser from the Mozilla Foundation surpassed 10 million downloads on Saturday as Web surfers continue to move away from Microsoft's market-dominating IE. The milestone highlights growing frustration with the security vulnerabilities that have dogged IE during the past few months. Nearly two dozen holes in the Web browser have been discovered during the fall, ranging in degrees of seriousness.

Firefox's surge has helped Mozilla cut into Microsoft's dominance of the Web browser market, with the software giant's market share dropping to less than 90 percent. Dutch market researcher OneStat.com reported last month that IE's market share had slipped to 88.9 percent in the third week of November, down 5 percentage points from its share in May. Mozilla-based browsers, including Firefox, rose to 7.4 percent, up 5 percentage points from May.

"It seems that people are switching from Microsoft's Internet Explorer to Mozilla's new Firefox browser," Niels Brinkman, co-founder of OneStat.com, said in a statement in November.

Microsoft has disputed these numbers, claiming that they do not represent corporate users.

"It doesn't jibe with what WebSideStory shows, and what neither of these count is corporate intranets where users aren't actually hitting the Web," Gary Schare, Microsoft's director of product management for Windows, said of OneStat's statistics.

On Wednesday, the information technology services department at Pennsylvania State University recommended that students drop IE in favor of Firefox and Apple Computer's Safari to reduce attacks through vulnerabilities in the Microsoft software. The university said "media reports" and a string of warnings by Carnegie Mellon University's computer emergency response team led to its recommendation.

Malicious code writers have targeted security holes in the browser to launch attacks or install spyware. These attacks are often launched when a victim clicks on a specific Web link, opening the door for intruders to take over the person's computer. Once the PC is compromised, the attacker could access account information, load other software and delete files.

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Security not main reason for Firefox
by n3td3v December 12, 2004 2:54 PM PST
I think Cnet is jumping the gun a little. While IE does have flaws, so does Firefox, probably as many as IE. Its just that hackers spend more time trying to find flaws in IE right now. I don't believe 10 million users downloaded Firefox for security reasons, I believe its because Firefox is a good broswer with lots of new features IE doesn't have. I also believe there is no "shift" from IE to Firefox, I believe the majority still use IE, along with Firefox. While lots of advanced users may switch to Firefox for "security reasons", I don't believe the majority of the 10 million users downloaded Firefox because of security. I believe the majority of average users have downloaded Firefox because of rumour, and as I stated above already, because of the features Firefox has over IE.
Thanks, n3td3v at yahoo com
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Security is a reason.
by Dachi December 12, 2004 3:43 PM PST
Some stuff like coolwebsearch self installs on IE through vulns. Sure there are vulns for firefox, but how many total spyware apps do you think have been self installed through it? Maybe 10, compare that to the millions of spyware apps that have installed through, and attatched themselves to IE. If you are an experienced power user and want ot keep using IE, fine. But for end users that don't know how to protect their systems I would strongly recommend firefox.

With the growing popularity of online banking and eCommerce, IE is a real threat to real people.

Microsoft may have come through a day late and a dollar short with SP2. I say good.
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Security is a BIG reason....
by hion2000 December 12, 2004 9:40 PM PST
Firefox will never have as many flaws as IE will. Firefox is OPEN SOURCE, which means that potentially millions of people can look at the source code. If there is a flaw, it can be reported immediately to BugZilla. Also, if it happens to be a serious flaw, he/she can earn $500! Microsoft's Internet Explorer is closed source, and MS has been known to make buggy programs. Microsoft doesn't have such an excellent stance as Mozilla, and that's a well known fact! The developers of Firefox chose not to implement ActiveX, because ActiveX is the biggest conduit for not only spyware, but for hackers too. The vulnerabilities in ActiveX are widespread, and well known. Web developers are also shifting away, because Internet Explorer renders many CSS properties poorly, and lacks support for 8-bit alpha channels in PNGs.
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by n3td3v December 12, 2004 5:44 PM PST
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firefox not the only fish
by Not Bugged December 12, 2004 7:00 PM PST
They use IE html rendering engine so they inherit lot of microsoft IE good and bad.
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Sigh
by December 12, 2004 7:53 PM PST
That is a browser shell, not a standalone browser.

I wish people would stop misunderstanding simple concepts.
Well...
by December 12, 2004 7:58 PM PST
If you're going to stick with the IE engine, might as well just go to http://breasy.com rather than downloading a whole new browser.
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Firefox big fish
by n3td3v December 12, 2004 11:57 PM PST
As soon as I post it, I realised deepnet was IE. As such is life is, Cnet don't provide a delete button to its users, plus I clicked the moderator button and got little response that way too. Never mind :0)
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Corporate users have little choice
by Freiheit13 December 12, 2004 7:38 PM PST
It's interesting that Microsoft chose to point to corporate users -- users who mostly have little or no choice in what browser they use -- as a defense against the notion that Firefox is stealing IE's users. Many corporate intranets are built very specifically to only work with one browser (usually IE). Even if another browser would fully support everything that the intranet uses, there's usually code that specifically checks if you're using IE. On the other hand, many corporate users are not able to install software on their PCs due to limited permissions on the system, which means they are forced to use what their I.T. manager has decided they will use, even if it's not the best option.

Many corporate intranets (including the one where I work) were built years ago to only support features which are specific to IE, and the developers either have all they can do to keep the system running or are too lazy to make the necessary changes to support industry standards. It is far easier to just say "sorry, we only support IE" than it is to modify existing code to support all browsers. There's no technical reason for my company's intranet to only support IE, that's just the way it was coded and our developers refuse to change it. That's a SCARY thought in the financial services market where our customers have tried to switch to Firefox to avoid IE's security problems only to be told we will only support them if they use IE.
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another thing
by nrlz December 12, 2004 10:44 PM PST
Also, a lot of corporate environments prefer IE because it can be configured and updated remotely using active directory and group policies. You can also lock down IE with group policies so that users don't go around changing settings and installing stuff and then blaming IT for it. Firefox doesn't give the IT department this level of control and therefore is not scalable in large corporate environments.
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Corporations being held hostage
by Not Bugged December 13, 2004 5:13 AM PST
Yes, some corporations have stupidly tied themselves to IE and are now being held hostage. If I were the CEO, I would send all those responsible to a risk management course (that is if I didn't fire them first) and then have them come up with a solid plan to phase FF in and IE out. It might take several months or longer but at least I know that my company would no longer be as vulnerable as it is today.
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Intranet
by Sboston December 13, 2004 8:45 AM PST
Depending on the number of web applications that have been developed over the years in your company, it could be very, very expensive to 'upgrade' those applications to fit every browser.

Also, the more browsers you add, or applications that fit the same niche, the more your support costs are going to go up.
Firefox just rules
by JLP December 16, 2004 1:51 PM PST
I first heard about Firefox a few weeks ago when our university replaced the default browser IE (now hidden as much as possible deep in the menu) with Firefox. And after a much better experience with Firefox I also switched to Firefox browser at home. I must say I'm very impressed. It is faster, more stable and it looks like it prevent spyware entering my computer. I also wonder how I could ever live without tabs. In my book IE is history and now is the time for the better browser: Firefox.
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I downloaded three copies of FireFox
by 201293546946733175101343322673 December 27, 2004 7:34 PM PST
And so what? I am still using IE and being very happy. Those "downloads" figures really means nothing.
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still using IE
by Jesica Alba July 9, 2007 5:16 PM PDT
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I downloaded once¸
by ipernar December 4, 2005 11:53 AM PST
and passed copys to 3 good friends of mine... what matters is statistic of usage, but if something is downloadad 100 milion times, it is more probable that it will have a bigger market share too... you cant deny that!
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