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December 20, 2005 6:15 AM PST

AOL gets Google to try busier ads

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Users of Google's search engine will soon see something they are not used to on the notoriously spare site: advertising with logos and graphics.

And the advertisers will not be limited to America Online, whose talks with Google prompted the change in policy, according to two executives close to the companies' negotiations.

As part of their deal, which is expected to be announced this afternoon, Google is providing AOL with $300 million in advertising on Google's Web sites, intended to use to draw Google search users to related content on AOL's sites, the executives said. That sum is on top of the $1 billion in cash that Google is to invest to buy a 5 percent stake in AOL.

Representatives of Google and AOL said their companies would not comment on any aspect of the negotiations. Google, which has been providing search technology and placing search-based advertising on AOL since 2002, emerged Friday with a tentative deal to renew and expand that relationship, fending off a challenge from Microsoft.

The executives close to the talks said that at AOL's request, Google would begin to test various forms of graphical ads and that it would make the same formats available to other advertisers. Google has started to sell graphical ads for placement on other sites; plans to do so on Google itself were accelerated by the AOL talks, an executive involved in the negotiations said.

Graphical advertisements, like the common rectangular ads known as banners, have been a feature of most commercial Internet sites for a decade.

Google made a name for itself, in part, because it went without graphical ads in favor of small text advertisements linked to the topics for which users search. Google's simple pages, quick to load and easy to read, helped the site build a following, and text advertisements proved valuable to marketers looking for people interested in their products.

Yet as AOL's parent, Time Warner, was exploring potential deals with Google and Microsoft, it pressed Google for ways that Google users could be directed to AOL pages. AOL is trying to replace the declining profit from its dial-up subscription business with advertising revenue from free Web sites like AOL.com.

The $300 million in advertising being provided to AOL can be spent on traditional text ads or on these new experimental formats, the executives close to the talks said; AOL will have to bid on the advertisements in Google's auction and will be charged out of the $300 million allotment.

One format being discussed is a box, which may include a photograph and a logo, that would appear on the main search results pages toward the bottom of the advertisements in the right-hand column. Traditional banner ads may appear on Google Image Search and the Froogle shopping site, which already include many photographs, an executive involved said. No advertising is contemplated for the Google home page.

In addition to the $300 million in advertising, Google has agreed to help put content from AOL on other parts of its site as well. Google, for example, will look for content and services from AOL to include in a feature it calls One Box, which puts very specific links and content above regular results for certain search topics, an executive involved in the negotiations said.

Google does not charge sites to be included in its One Box program. Google did not promise any exclusivity to AOL's content, but it did agree to consider it in any future One Box expansion, the executive said. One likely prospect would be for a new One Box feature on celebrities that Google is developing, the executive said.

Google also agreed to provide technical assistance to AOL to help explain how to make its pages easier for Google--and other search engines--to find and include in its index of the Web. Google has provided similar information for other large Web sites, according to Kevin Lee, executive chairman of Did-it, a search marketing firm. In general, Google will offer an engineer who recites publicly available technical information on how Google's search engine evaluates Web sites.

Lynn Fox, a Google spokeswoman, said no deals Google is contemplating would allow its search results to favor a particular company.

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Gaudy ads coming to Google? No thanks
by rcrusoe December 20, 2005 7:47 AM PST
I've been a loyal Google user for many years and have always
thought their text ads were an excellent idea. They are non-
intrusive when I need to find info quickly, but they are there
when I need them.

If Google starts crapping up their pages with gaudy ads, I'll just
block them. If they get fancy and try to go around my ad
blockers, I'll just turn off all Google graphics or start using other
search engines.

This is nuts. Google already won the gold medal - why would
they want to have it Bronzed?
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Good thing Firefox has AdBlock
by aabcdefghij987654321 December 20, 2005 7:55 AM PST
That'll help keep Google fast. One small banner ad takes as much bandwith as the whole rest of the page.
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Yep
by KsprayDad December 20, 2005 8:26 AM PST
I have given $ to Firefox, Adblocker etc...
NOTE to Google...I will pay to NOT have to look at ads!
Google goes public and stops being Google
by Dachi December 20, 2005 8:29 AM PST
Public companies have one motive and one motive alone, more money.

Every day from the day google went public, they have become just a little less google and a little more corprate.

Graphic ads is a _huge_ step away from the direction of the former google.

They are raking in millions and millions of dollars on text ads but and their stock price is something insane like $450 but it still just isn't good enough.

Why? Well with a public company there is no such thing as "good enough"

They don't want to do one thing and do it well, they want to be Yahoo, AOL, Microsoft, eBay, and Walmart combined now.
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I totally agree
by December 20, 2005 9:49 AM PST
Why am I starting to like Google less and less? Exactly because of the dynamics that you describe: "they have become just a little less google and a little more corprate"

But as we all know, this is a slippery slope type of effect. The "little more corporate" that we are seeing will more and more become a 'lot more corporate'.

As Bill Gates said, Google is now the "darling" like Microsoft used to be, but I believe their days as the darling are numbered.
Corporations
by KilljoyNTT December 20, 2005 9:05 AM PST
I believe there is a law concerning the director of a corporation having a direct responsability to turn a profit at all costs.

It's illegal for them to do anything that would result in the company having less money, like donating to a charity, etc.

Unless of course it could be claimed as 'advertising' (like as a publicity stunt.)

Endless economic expansion is unsustainable, too bad capitalism refuses to believe it.
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Google Experimented With This Before:
by BMR777 December 20, 2005 9:30 AM PST
Google has experimented with graphical adds before. They didn't do it on the main page, but I saw them popping up all over the place on adwords sites. Then as suddenly as they started, they stopped.

Anyway, I have two words for the new Google Ads: Hosts File!

I already block 95% of ads on webpages using a custom hosts file, which works in IE and FireFox.

Ads Suck
BMR777
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Try Gigablast
by KsprayDad December 20, 2005 1:59 PM PST
I use Google with Firefox Adblock and Customize Google.

If this starts not to work...

Try Gigablast...the fellow that runs it has a great story and the searches are excellent.
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Ultimate proof about the Media Hype/Hoax around Google
by 207495111267145837975635436522 December 20, 2005 2:10 PM PST
If you had any doubt that the Big Media and Google are together to create this ultimate Hoax that Google is the best search engine for us, this deal between Google & AOL should put it to rest.

How can the people not see that there is something totally wrong when Aol-TimeWarner-CNN
keeps reporting on how great Google is as a search engine and (in return) Google hands over to these same Media sources Billions of dollars in cash and stock.
Talk about reporting/news Hoax.

So it is all hopeless? Is there not a search engine that we can actually trust that it is working for us rather than for Big Media?
The answer is yes there is, it is called AnooX.
www.anoox.com
Because it's search results are optimized by the Vote of the people (that is us) and because it is not-for-profit.
My hats off to AnooX.

Oh well, I guess better get ready for one more feature article in Fortune or another Aol-Timewarner publication about how great Google is!
Not :)
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